Bullish on Bernie: The Bernie Sanders 2016 Thread

[luchog]

Nah, Hilary,at worst,would be a bad president. Trump would be a catastrophe as President.
I proudly admit I am a center left Democrat,and think a lot of Hilary hate is because she is not far enough to the left for some people.

And her previous much more conservative stance, and her tendency to follow political winds rather than principles, and her general untrustworthiness, and the fact that she's clearly an establishment politician in the pockets of major corporations (particularly the for-profit prison industry, who is lobbying hard to oppose legalizing cannabis so they don't lose their prison populations), and she has consistently voted in favour of corporations to the detriment of workers, and...

Hillary Clinton will be a terrible president. Donald Trump will be far worse.

 

[Childlike Empress]

Hillary Clinton will be a terrible president. Donald Trump will be far worse.

I disagree. From the horrible moment it really might be Teh Donald against the Wicked Witch of The West, I'll support the unknown loose cannon against the known gunboat with its bloody track record.

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

...and counting on the totally corrupt (collective) head of the FBI to do their job doesn't seem like a sane option.

Sounds like you've already decided Hillary is guilty of some crime without evaluating all the evidence. How very "skeptical" of you.

 

[Childlike Empress]

Sounds like you've already decided Hillary is guilty of some crime without evaluating all the evidence. How very "skeptical" of you.

Sounds like you've already "decided to pretend that" Hillary is guilty of no crime while consciously ignoring all evidence to the contrary. Which is very much "in character" for your forum persona, so I guess you "win" here.

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Sounds like you've already "decided to pretend that" Hillary is guilty of no crime while consciously ignoring all evidence to the contrary. Which is very much "in character" for your forum persona, so I guess you "win" here.

I've "decided" nothing. The matter is under investigation. I don't have access to all the evidence. Therefore, as a skeptic, I can't proclaim guilt or innocence. You seem not to have that limitation.

 

[Childlike Empress]

I've "decided" nothing. The matter is under investigation. I don't have access to all the evidence. Therefore, as a skeptic, I can't proclaim guilt or innocence. You seem not to have that limitation.

Your sorry attempt to limit my comment to the FBI investigation is as boring as it is ineffective.

 

[Joey McGee]

Russia Today is running non-stop "Hilary is a criminal" tripe that CE has been swallowing whole.

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Russia Today is running non-stop "Hilary is a criminal" tripe that CE has been swallowing whole.

 

[Puppycow]

It doesn't have any victims. Nobody is deprived anything they are entitled to.

Victim is probably too strong a word but it is a form of rent-seeking:

In response to Timhau's earlier question: how doe this harm a retail investor like myself, I think it does, but the effect may be too small for you to notice. A few pennies on this trade, a few on the next. Maybe more if you are making large trades.
Like, if I could steal a penny from every person in America, I could be rich, and who would that harm really? Who's going to miss one penny? Victimless crime, right?

 

[dudalb]

Russia Today is running non-stop "Hilary is a criminal" tripe that CE has been swallowing whole.

Russia Today is in love with Donald Trump. And Trump has spoken highly of Putin.
That Trump thinks Putin is a great guy and in many ways seems to envy him should give anybody pause before voting for Donald for President.

 

[logger]

What next? We brace ourselves for President Trump.

A lot of people seem to be taking the attitude of "he couldn't possibly make things any worse". I think that's short-sighted, but I also don't think it's going to be nearly as bad as most pundits are making it out to be. With Clinton, you know what you're getting. With Trump, nobody knows. That makes it exciting!

Its quite obvious really why both establishments continue to say Trump will be a disaster. They're terrified about losing all that money and power. Can't wait to hear him say they're all fired!

I'm also surprised many of you leftists are so against him, he isn't very conservative and will probably push things you like.

Makes me wonder how many of you work for these establishment campaigns.

 

[Manopolus]

Its quite obvious really why both establishments continue to say Trump will be a disaster. They're terrified about losing all that money and power. Can't wait to hear him say they're all fired!

I'm also surprised many of you leftists are so against him, he isn't very conservative and will probably push things you like.

Makes me wonder how many of you work for these establishment campaigns.

Pure salesmanship combined with a notable lack of policy discussion beyond the wall thing and the usual nationalism and warmongering we always see on the right is hardly something I'd describe as "moderate." It sort of appears to be more along the lines of a typical scam than anything to me. I'm not sure that translates to "isn't very conservative" except if you look at some of his past statements which he has walked back in this campaign.

I keep wondering if he's going to walk to the podium at the convention and say "Wow, I really fooled you idiots. I don't actually want to be president. I was just trolling you." I keep thinking that surely he can't be as stupid as he's pretending to be.

 

[Puppycow]

I don't understand the antagonism between Clinton supporters and Sanders supporters. Can't we all agree that both Sanders and Clinton are more qualified, more compassionate and much smarter than either Cruz or Trump?

I don't even think Scrut is really a Clinton supporter. He's just an equal-opportunity mocker of delusional people.

 

[The Big Dog]

Russia Today is running non-stop "Hilary is a criminal" tripe that CE has been swallowing whole.

I would not watch/listen to RT on a god damn bet, yet Hillary is likely a criminal.

Say, "tripe" isn't very skeptical now is it?

 

[Joey McGee]

If the FBI analyzed your browsing history, what would the the top 3 news sources be? Be honest now...

 

[dudalb]

Its quite obvious really why both establishments continue to say Trump will be a disaster. They're terrified about losing all that money and power. Can't wait to hear him say they're all fired!

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Surprise. A Donald supporter admits he does want Donald as president;he wants Donald as dictator.

 

[dudalb]

If the FBI analyzed your browsing history, what would the the top 3 news sources be? Be honest now...

What is funny is that anybody is buying his pretending to be a Bernie Supporter,when a quick check of his posting history shows he swings pretty far to the right politically.....

 

[The Big Dog]

If the FBI analyzed your browsing history, what would the the top 3 news sources be? Be honest now...

You talking to me? You been here a while, you know how to quote, right? Or are you pulling a Hillary and refusing to mention my name?

Chicago tribune, Chicago sun times, New York Times. Maybe Chicago reader now that I think of it....

 

[The Big Dog]

What is funny is that anybody is buying his pretending to be a Bernie Supporter,when a quick check of his posting history shows he swings pretty far to the right politically.....

Calling out Hillary makes me smart, not a right winger.

Although the thread ain't about me, now is it? Stop trying to derail the thread.

 

[Joey McGee]

You talking to me? You been here a while, you know how to quote, right? Or are you pulling a Hillary and refusing to mention my name?

Chicago tribune, Chicago sun times, New York Times. Maybe Chicago reader now that I think of it....

OK by this I can tell that you think that she disregarded the law because she wanted to keep the emails to private to cover up anything that might hurt her chances at the Presidency... right?

CE has a very, very different vision of what kind of criminal she is, as their posts show.

Your theory is stupid btw