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The Theory of Relativity will begin to fall apart in 2016/2017

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Reality Check said:
The science is really clear:
Alignment of quasar polarizations with large-scale structures
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Dear below is copy / paste from the article yourself had linked to


Alignment of quasar polarizations with large-scale structures

We have measured the optical linear polarization of quasars belonging to Gpc-scale quasar groups at redshift z ~ 1.3.
Out of 93 quasars observed, 19 are significantly polarized.

We found that quasar polarization vectors are either parallel or perpendicular to the directions of the large-scale structures to which they belong. Statistical tests indicate that the probability that this effect can be attributed to randomly oriented polarization vectors is of the order of 1%.
We also found that quasars with polarization perpendicular to the host structure preferentially have large emission line widths while objects with polarization parallel to the host structure preferentially have small emission line widths. Considering that quasar polarization is usually either parallel or perpendicular to the accretion disk axis depending on the inclination with respect to the line of sight, and that broader emission lines originate from quasars seen at higher inclinations, we conclude that quasar spin axes are likely parallel to their host large-scale structures.”
http://arxiv.org/abs/1409.6098

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Bjarne said:
Dear below is copy / paste from the article yourself had linked to
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That is a copy and paste confirming your continued ignorance about the article, Bjarne, and adding random highlights.
8 March 2016 Bjarne: An observation that has no connection with dark flow - the 19 quasars are parallel or perpendicular with the large scale structure they exist in.
19 are significantly polarized. It is that which allows the authors to say that these quasars point either parallel or perpendicular to the directions of the large-scale structures. Statistical tests indicate that the probability that this effect can be attributed to randomly oriented polarization vectors is of the order of 1%. So if we found another 100 sets of 19 quasars that are significantly polarized then we expect 99 of them to have orientations either parallel or perpendicular to the directions of the large-scale structures.

The abstract goes on to explain the reason why the authors conclude that quasar spin axes are likely parallel to their host large-scale structures.

You finish with a random cartoon with the delusion of RR and the new delusion of EFDA. Where are the unicorns :D! You missed out the fluffy bunnies! A cartoon with Effective Dark Flow Acceleration following a paper not about dark flow in any way needs a laughing dog!
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Bjarne said:
.......“The alignments in the new data, on scales even bigger than current predictions from simulations, may be a hint that there is a missing ingredient in our current models of the cosmos,” concludes Dominique Sluse...........
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Whoa! Wow. That's some degree of certainty they're showing.

Presumably even laughing cows in kind gardens can probably understand that "in our current models of the cosmos" isn't the same as "we need an entirely new model of the cosmos". Rather the opposite in fact. But really, don't let your own quoted citations saying the opposite of what you claim they say trouble you. Carry on believing, Bjarne.
 
MikeG said:
Whoa! Wow. That's some degree of certainty they're showing.

Presumably even laughing cows in kind gardens can probably understand that "in our current models of the cosmos" isn't the same as "we need an entirely new model of the cosmos". Rather the opposite in fact. But really, don't let your own quoted citations saying the opposite of what you claim they say trouble you. Carry on believing, Bjarne.
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statistical tests indicate that the probability that this effect can be attributed to randomly oriented polarization vectors is of the order of 1%.
 
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Reality Check said:
That is a copy and paste confirming your continued ignorance about the article, Bjarne, and adding random highlights.
8 March 2016 Bjarne: An observation that has no connection with dark flow - the 19 quasars are parallel or perpendicular with the large scale structure they exist in.
19 are significantly polarized. It is that which allows the authors to say that these quasars point either parallel or perpendicular to the directions of the large-scale structures. Statistical tests indicate that the probability that this effect can be attributed to randomly oriented polarization vectors is of the order of 1%. So if we found another 100 sets of 19 quasars that are significantly polarized then we expect 99 of them to have orientations either parallel or perpendicular to the directions of the large-scale structures.

The abstract goes on to explain the reason why the authors conclude that quasar spin axes are likely parallel to their host large-scale structures.

You finish with a random cartoon with the delusion of RR and the new delusion of EFDA. Where are the unicorns :D! You missed out the fluffy bunnies! A cartoon with Effective Dark Flow Acceleration following a paper not about dark flow in any way needs a laughing dog!
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Even a person with a kindergarden education can read the conclusion from ESA’a own webpage............

“The alignments in the new data, on scales even bigger than current predictions from simulations, may be a hint that there is a missing ingredient in our current models of the cosmos,” concludes Dominique Sluse.
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Bjarne said:
“The alignments in the new data, on scales even bigger than current predictions from simulations, may be a hint that there is a missing ingredient in our current models of the cosmos,” concludes Dominique Sluse.
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Wow Bjarne: the idiocy of the "god (my crank idea) of the gaps" argument :jaw-dropp! I wish we had so a better way to express complete astonishment at the ignorance of an statement than a laughing dog.
That conclusion is not about the crank ideas of an poster unknown to ESA who displays ignorance about science and fantasizes about valid science.
Some kindergarten level English for you Bjarne. This sentence states:
  1. Simulations exist.
  2. They predict alignments on certain scales.
  3. The observed alignments are on bigger scales.
  4. "our current models of the cosmos" is the valid science that rational people work with.
  5. It is this valid science might need adjusting.
This has nothing to do with your continuing delusion that this observation is about dark flow.
8 March 2016 Bjarne: An observation that has no connection with dark flow - the 19 quasars are parallel or perpendicular with the large scale structure they exist in.
 
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Bjarne said:
statistical tests indicate that the probability that this effect can be attributed to randomly oriented polarization vectors is of the order of 1%.
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That is correct. But are you determined to eventually highlight very bit of text on the web page, Bjarne :p!
We are not disputing the conclusions of this paper. We are pointing out that you are still obsessing with an irrelevant observation.
8 March 2016 Bjarne: An observation that has no connection with dark flow - the 19 quasars are parallel or perpendicular with the large scale structure they exist in.
This is extremely simple even for someone with English as a second language: DARK FLOW is not spelt LARGE SCALE STRUCTURE :jaw-dropp!
 
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Bjarne said:
statistical tests indicate that the probability that this effect can be attributed to randomly oriented polarization vectors is of the order of 1%.
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So what statistical tests indicate what probability that this is attributed to whatever it is exactly that you are claiming?
 
The Man said:
So what statistical tests indicate what probability that this is attributed to whatever it is exactly that you are claiming?
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The illustration below, is not something I suddenly made up, but a consequence of the theory.
Galaxies that moves fast enough sideward, will have significant inclinations pattern.
Mass attraction between galaxies can make some galaxies move faster sideward than other, but still a pattern tend must be there, and this is what we see.
And this is consistence with what ESA have observed

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Bjarne said:
The illustration below, is not something I suddenly made up, but a consequence of the theory.
Galaxies that moves fast enough sideward, will have significant inclinations pattern.
Mass attraction between galaxies can make some galaxies move faster sideward than other, but still a pattern tend must be there, and this is what we see.
And this is consistence with what ESA have observed

[qimg]http://science27.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/RREDFA2.jpg[/qimg]
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Which is no answer at all to the question of how you arrived at a 1% probability for whatever it was you were claiming at the time. If you provide stats like that, just back them up when asked. How did you get the 1% figure?
 
MikeG said:
Which is no answer at all to the question of how you arrived at a 1% probability for whatever it was you were claiming at the time. If you provide stats like that, just back them up when asked. How did you get the 1% figure?
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Esa calculated that 1% probability that it should be possible by coincidence

statistical tests indicate that the probability that this effect can be attributed to randomly oriented polarization vectors is of the order of 1%.
 
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Enough with the cows and dogs, please. Return to the topic and stay on it, remembering at all time to be civil and polite.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Agatha
 
Bjarne's preparing a shock! The only thing that would shock me is some maths...........It must be that.
 
Bjarne said:
The illustration below, is not something I suddenly made up, but a consequence of the theory.
Galaxies that moves fast enough sideward, will have significant inclinations pattern.
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Why exactly should the direction of movement have any influence on the inclination of galaxies?

Hans
 
Bjarne said:
easy easy rom was not drunk on one day
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For those not conversant with Danish, that is a joke derived from a Danish proverb. It works in Danish, but translation would be tedious.

Hans
 
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