Hillary Clinton is Done

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BenBurch said:
I believe there is hope [of an independent Palestinian state] under Sanders should he be elected.
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Do you have a cite for that? Because I find the notion of a Jewish president spiting Israel a bit unbelievable.

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Bob001 said:
The media is generally in the barrel for Clinton.
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No, not by a long shot. Almost all the coverage is negative for the same reason you note the constant coverage of Trump.

Bob001 said:
They are covering Trump extensively (although certainly not "playing all his speeches live") because he is a newsmaker; that is, what he's doing is so unusual, if not unprecedented, that pretty much everything he does is newsworthy. After all, he's the Republican front-runner by far, and he got there while the whole media world was sneering at him.

One writer's thoughts on Clinton and the media, and what her campaign reveals about her character:
https://www.salon.com/2016/02/16/th...nd_failed_strategies_as_hillary_repeats_2008/
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Your link is an example of the negative coverage of Clinton.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
No, not by a long shot. Almost all the coverage is negative for the same reason you note the constant coverage of Trump.


Your link is an example of the negative coverage of Clinton.
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"Negative" is in the eye of the beholder. Reporting factually that Clinton was the unopposed shoo-in six months ago and is now struggling -- at least among the actual voters -- against a guy the media were sneering at as an elderly, fuzzy-haired, fuzzy-thinking socialist when he announced his candidacy is just news reporting. The link is a catalog of many of the reasons that some voters are not riding Hillary's bandwagon. A more mainstream opponent (Joe Biden? Elizabeth Warren? Corey Booker?) would be leaving her in the dust.
 
BenBurch said:
Until a fetus is born and breathes it is not a human being. Many very serious birth defects cannot be detected until the third trimester, and I believe a woman has an absolute right to abort a pregnancy at any time up to birth or c-section.
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Tsukasa Buddha said:
This is just as indefensible and silly as the "soul at conception" argument.
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I think it isn't a human being until it is capable of self cognition. That said I don't fault other people for not being as radical as me. I have zero fear that Hillary is going to defund Planned Parenthood or direct the Justice Department to find ways to make abortion illegal.
 
In the situation the Palestinian people will grow more and more miserable. My vision is two states, living side by side in peace and security. There is simply no way to achieve that peace until all parties fight terror. Yet, at this critical moment, if all parties will break with the past and set out on a new path, we can overcome the darkness with the light of hope. Peace requires a new and different Palestinian leadership, so that a Palestinian state can be born.

It wasn't all that long ago that even republicans were for a two party state. That was GWB.
 
Travis said:
I think it isn't a human being until it is capable of self cognition. That said I don't fault other people for not being as radical as me. I have zero fear that Hillary is going to defund Planned Parenthood or direct the Justice Department to find ways to make abortion illegal.
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But its very fuzzy on when that is reached exactly. Could be years, even never for people with mental disabilities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infant_cognitive_development

Are you saying its OK for a parent to kill their two year old??
 
lobosrul said:
But its very fuzzy on when that is reached exactly. Could be years, even never for people with mental disabilities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infant_cognitive_development

Are you saying its OK for a parent to kill their two year old??
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My opinion is once there is live birth, the infant is part of a human community and should not be killed, though it might not technically be murder to do so. There are good and sufficient psychological reasons.
 
Travis said:
I think it isn't a human being until it is capable of self cognition. That said I don't fault other people for not being as radical as me. I have zero fear that Hillary is going to defund Planned Parenthood or direct the Justice Department to find ways to make abortion illegal.
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With the exception that I seriously have a hard time naming anything about HRC which I would feel a certitude of over 80% about, I don't think that there is much daylight between HRC and Bernie with regard to this issue. For that matter, I think Dr. Jill Stein has one of the best takes I know of on this topic:

http://www.thepoliticalguide.com/Profiles/President/US/Jill_Stein/Views/Abortion/

Nice little dialogue at Victoria theatre in San Francisco back in May of 2012:
 
Planned Parenthood going on-air for Clinton in NV
Planned Parenthood is mounting an advertising campaign in Nevada Wednesday on behalf of Hillary Clinton, as the former secretary of state vies for support ahead of Saturday's caucuses. ...

Sanders took heat last month after he dismissed Planned Parenthood's endorsement of Clinton as "the establishment" supporting its own. Shortly after his comment, he began citing his support for Planned Parenthood more often on the campaign trail and also highlighted the 43rd anniversary of the Roe v. Wade decision.

"There's only one candidate in this race who has been an outspoken champion for women's health and rights for decades -- and who has a real plan to not just protect the progress we've made, but to keep expanding women's access to basic health care," said Deirdre Schifeling, executive director of the Planned Parenthood Action Fund, in a statement to CNN.
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lobosrul said:
But its very fuzzy on when that is reached exactly. Could be years, even never for people with mental disabilities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infant_cognitive_development

Are you saying its OK for a parent to kill their two year old??
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It is fuzzy which is why live birth is usually used because it is convenient. I, personally, was pretty cognizant by two years old but not everyone would be.

So, to your last question, it would depend on the circumstances.
 
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Tsukasa Buddha said:
She supports the person the fundraiser she chose to perform at was for? Scandalous!
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Chose? It is that like Hillary saying she just took what ever Goldman Sachs decided to pay.

Sounds like Hillary and Katy do what ever the highest bidder wants, huh?
 
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