RE: clintonemails.com: Who is Eric Hoteham?

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TheL8Elvis said:
Yes, the same unclassified email system you are lamenting HRC did not use to send her emails.

I don't understand your point....
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It's almost like using an unclassified system to send/store classified data is bad universally!
 
The Obama administration CONFIRMS that Hillary's Email Included Top Secret Info

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Obama administration is confirming for the first time that Hillary Clinton's unsecured home server contained some closely guarded secrets, including material requiring one of the highest levels of classification.

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But The Associated Press has learned that 7 email chains are being withheld in full for containing "top secret" material.
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APNewsBreak: Gov't finds 'top secret' info in Clinton emails
 
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More Detail Here: Top Secret SAP Confirmed

But The Associated Press has learned seven email chains are being withheld in full because they contain information deemed to be "top secret." The 37 pages include messages recently described by a key intelligence official as concerning so-called "special access programs" — a highly restricted subset of classified material that could point to confidential sources or clandestine programs like drone strikes or government eavesdropping.

Department officials wouldn't describe the substance of the emails, or say if Clinton sent any herself. They also wouldn't disclose if any of the documents reflected information that was classified at the time of transmission, but indicated that the agency's Diplomatic Security and Intelligence and Research bureaus have begun looking into that question.

"The documents are being upgraded at the request of the intelligence community because they contain a category of top secret information," State Department spokesman John Kirby told the AP
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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/h...al&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
 
16.5 said:
APNewsBreak: Gov't finds 'top secret' info in Clinton emails
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Department officials wouldn't describe the substance of the emails, or say if Clinton sent any herself. They also wouldn't disclose if any of the documents reflected information that was classified at the time of transmission, but indicated that the agency's Diplomatic Security and Intelligence and Research bureaus have begun looking into that question.


"The documents are being upgraded at the request of the intelligence community because they contain a category of top secret information," State Department spokesman John Kirby told the AP, describing the decision to withhold documents in full as "not unusual." That means they won't be published online with the rest of the documents, even with blacked-out boxes.

Clinton, the front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination, has insisted she never sent or received information on her personal email account that was classified at the time. No emails released so far were stamped "CLASSIFIED" or "TOP SECRET," but reviewers previously had designated more than 1,000 messages at lower classification levels for public release. Friday's will be the first at the top secret level.

For those that Clinton only read, and didn't write or forward, she still would have been required to report classification slippages that she recognized. But without classification markings, that may have been difficult, especially if the information was in the public domain.

Kirby said the State Department's focus as part of the Freedom of Information Act review of Clinton's emails was on "whether they need to be classified today." Questions about their past classification, he said, "are being, and will be, handled separately by the State Department."

Doesn't appear to actually be anything new....
 
The furor over Hillary Clinton's use of a private email account grew more serious for the Democratic presidential frontrunner Friday as the State Department designated 22 of the messages from her account "top secret."

It was the first time State has formally deemed any of Clinton's emails classified at that level, reserved for information that can cause "exceptionally grave" damage to to national security if disclosures.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/...ails-declared-top-secret-218420#ixzz3yfS5VoRY

No wonder State is dragging their feet.
 
The same issue would have occurred if these had been on the state.gov address. The state.gov vs private email is not relevant.

I go back to what I said at the beginning, you get FOIA requests, the material gets reviewed and redacted before it is released - standard procedure.

The FBI was asked to look at the fact some classified material might have been on an unclassified system. Out of 30,000 plus emails there were 22 that might have been entirely problematic and a less than 100 or so that had some problems. Both the state.gov and the private server were equally unsecure.

Nope, still not outraged.
 
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State is also withholding email chains between Hillary and Obama.

HRC Campaign is outraged and wants them all released.

Can't make this stuff up.
 
Clinton has said none of her emails were marked classified when they were sent. However, it is the responsibility of individual government officials to handle classified material appropriately, including by properly marking it as classified, and the finding means that information deemed highly sensitive passed through the unsecured system that Clinton directed be established for her use.

Kirby said the State Department has not yet made a determination of whether the information was classified at the time it was sent or has become more sensitive due to subsequent events. He said that, regardless, the information was deemed too sensitive Friday for release.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...pondence-from-her-time-as-secretary-of-state/

Again, the Clowns running Hillary's campaign said: We adamently (sic) oppose the complete blocking of the release of these emails.
 
More from Camp Hillary:

Claims that the Top Secret emails are "innocuous" and should be released.

That kind of begs the question: when did Hillary's Campaign get a Top Secret/SAP Clearance?

Typical tone deaf ignorant response from the Hillary Campaign: Hillary First, and how dare the Intelligence Community screw up her ascension to the White House.
 
applecorped said:
Her supporters and defenders are equally tone deaf and ignorant.
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From the CNN article:

State Department spokesman John Kirby said the documents, totaling 37 pages, were not marked classified at the time they were sent, but are being upgraded at the request of the Intelligence Community because they contain sensitive information.
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Is that saying it was not top secret then, but is now being classified as such?

Or is it saying she failed to correctly mark it as classified?

Big difference between the two and Hillary hunters seem to be just assuming the 2nd while the a more rational approach would be to wait for clarification.
 
Here's my summary of the facts sifted out of the bull:

The announcement specifically said these emails were classified after the fact and were not identified as classified when they were sent.

The announcement specifically deferred any comments about any supposed crimes. Of course, innocent until proven guilty doesn't matter to any of the Hillary haters.

And the most important overlooked item in this brouhaha is the fact Clinton used the secure fax system for classified material and her government email was also not considered a classified system.

So the fact these were on a home server is completely irrelevant to the issue of secure communications when classified materials are sent.
In the one supposed smoking gun, asking a classified document be scrubbed of its heading and sent anyway when the fax wasn't working, so far there is no evidence of whether it was ever sent, and it contained "talking points" something less concerning than say the plans to take down BinLaden.

But once again, Clinton is accused of some horrendous crime well before there is any evidence of anything.

She used her own server instead of a government account. That's it, that's the big crime because both email systems were equally considered non-secure.

Colin Powell, by the way, as Secretary of State also used his own email account and no one ever asked him to produce a single document.

The transparency laws requiring government document preservation were complied with. People forget that Clinton complied with the preservation laws, she turned over some 30,000 emails before deleting the rest.

Of course the government witch hunters, Trey Gowdy and Darrel Issa, insisted on seeing all her private emails, something no other high level administrator has been asked to do because they were searching for anything they could use to pin something about Benghazi on Clinton (to which Trey Gowdy admitted publicly).

The server was not scrubbed as has been asserted by the Clinton crime fabricators, rather as Clinton said, personal emails were simply deleted. The proof being the FBI had no trouble recovering the deleted emails.

Clinton has repeatedly called for all these emails to be released to the public. Oh but it's so much easier to accuse her of being evil if you say you have evidence no one can see.

Those are the facts. The rest amounts to nothing more than speculation and blowing up the claim confidential emails were on her home server as if it were some nefarious thing. Like I said, the dot-gov email accounts also were not secure. It was the fax system that was set up for secure communication.

Look it up.
 
Molinaro said:
From the CNN article:




Is that saying it was not top secret then, but is now being classified as such?

Or is it saying she failed to correctly mark it as classified?

Big difference between the two and Hillary hunters seem to be just assuming the 2nd while the a more rational approach would be to wait for clarification.
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Yeah, a lot depends on whether the information was "born" classified, or later designated classified. I suspect it's a case of the former, but we'll have to wait and see.

Still, Hillary better have a damn good answer why top secret information wound up on her private server.

Politically, this was not what the Clinton campaign wanted to talk about the weekend before the Iowa caucuses.
 
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