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ComfySlippers said:
Who wants to give Cosmo the bad news?
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Yes. Inspired by another thread I have just been reading about Napoleon's campaign in Egypt. He didn't have Google Translate, so he had some problems in communicating his ideas to the Egyptians. Here's wiki.

Bonaparte's initial use of Arabic in his printed proclamations was rife with error. In addition to much of the awkwardly translated Arabic wording being unsound grammatically, often the proclamations were so poorly constructed that there (sic) were simply undecipherable.

The Sunni Muslim clerics of the Al-Azhar University in Cairo reacted incredulously to Napoleon's proclamations. Abd al-Rahman al-Jabarti, a Cairene cleric and historian, received the proclamations with a combination of amusement, bewilderment, and outrage.​

But modern technology makes perfect linguists of all of us, or nearly perfect anyway. :)
 
Craig B said:
Yes. Inspired by another thread I have just been reading about Napoleon's campaign in Egypt. He didn't have Google Translate, so he had some problems in communicating his ideas to the Egyptians. Here's wiki.



Bonaparte's initial use of Arabic in his printed proclamations was rife with error. In addition to much of the awkwardly translated Arabic wording being unsound grammatically, often the proclamations were so poorly constructed that there (sic) were simply undecipherable.



The Sunni Muslim clerics of the Al-Azhar University in Cairo reacted incredulously to Napoleon's proclamations. Abd al-Rahman al-Jabarti, a Cairene cleric and historian, received the proclamations with a combination of amusement, bewilderment, and outrage.​



But modern technology makes perfect linguists of all of us, or nearly perfect anyway. :)
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Interesting stuff.
It is still illegal, in France, to call your pig Napoleon.
 
ComfySlippers said:
Interesting stuff.
It is still illegal, in France, to call your pig Napoleon.
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That is a very reasonable reaction to Orwell's Animal Farm.

ETA I just saw this, in my linked source; evidently a consequence of the prohibition you refer to.

... Napoleon is the main villain of Animal Farm. In the first French version of Animal Farm, Napoleon is called César, the French form of Caesar, athough another translation has him as Napoléon.​
 
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Craig B said:
That is a very reasonable reaction to Orwell's Animal Farm.

ETA I just saw this, in my linked source; evidently a consequence of the prohibition you refer to.

... Napoleon is the main villain of Animal Farm. In the first French version of Animal Farm, Napoleon is called César, the French form of Caesar, athough another translation has him as Napoléon.​
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Yep. Fascinating stuff.
He invented the law that no one can name their pig Napoléon or Bonaparte.
Apparently the rule was so silly that no one took it seriously enough to repeal it.
So, technically, it's still a law today.

But then again, I'm supposed to practice archery on Sunday's and let strangers use my bath.

Funny world.
 
As an aside, I just wasted moments of my life devising a test to show Cosmo how Google Translate is flawed.

Unfortunately the forum software goes a bit weird if I post text in Russian or Hebrew.

The minimum 2 character rule even though I padded it out with lots of English.
Weird.
 
Nay_Sayer said:
FiFY.

I'm still setting up my foil fort in two spots, Iceland and Easter Island, I am ready to tackle your frail armies, I have made sure the battlefield will not have any "good restaurants" and I have already sealed half the toilets shut.

Remember everyone to keep using my [Eat only on days ending in Y" diet. Also I urge everyone here to speak the realholy language; Klingon
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It is very good that in your own creative discourse and in your own creative narrative more and more memes from this Great “Thread of Threads”.
For example: “Eat only on days ending in Y" diet”, “real holy language”. (Today – in the Era of Holy Resurrected Language your “real holy language” must be died for 2500 years and than it must be resurrected to get the level of God Resurrected Language)
I wish you the domination of creative and constructive memes and minimal quantities of destructive memes in your creative narratives.
 
Craig4 said:
I do speak more than one language in addition to English and get by well enough in three others. Learning another language isn't like riding a bike; you have to keep up with your practice or you lose them. I have no interest in adding a language that is completely useless to me to what I have to practice.
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If it is not a secret what are those 3 languages you speak in additional to English?
 
Tinyal said:
CS I understand entirely your frustrations. I've seen people like the OP wandering the streets of LA, or downtown Boston, or any other of the places many of the uncared-for mentally ill end up here in the USA (now that there's no such thing as mental health care for the uninsured).
They wear tin foil hats, or signs proclaiming some nonsense 'great truth', but it's just their mind that is damaged in some way. I've spoken to a few of these people over the years, and I must say my primary responses have always been pity and sadness that such people cannot find help (even if they were interested - the ones I've met have no idea, generally speaking, that something is wrong with themselves, and spend hour after hour trying to explain their thoughts to anyone who will listen - as if it's us that just aren't getting it).
Family members and old friends have long ago given up on them - in many cases understandably so, as they can effect no cure. Frequently modern medical science can do nothing except drug them into submission (if they tend to the violent).
I'm confident that at some point in the future we will have effective treatments for such brain mis-firings (assuming the human race doesn't implode - or explode - or kill the planet, a distinct possibility).
I remain sad that people like the OP have to go through their only life in this manner - I can personally do nothing. Sometimes I am slightly relieved if they have access to what they need in terms of secure housing, clean water, healthful food - and a few friends to talk to. That appears to be a tiny minority, however - at least here in the USA. The majority disappear into the edges, wandering the back alleys and hallways, sleeping in parks (or dumps), prey to criminals and the religiously insane.
Human civilization is a thin layer of 'approved' behaviors, easily stripped away - at heart, we appear to be no more than self-aware apes, fighting each other for a bigger piece of the banana. Those who cannot keep up, for any number of reasons, are left in the dust - ignored and cast out. Add in a life lived in Fear, Isolation, or Economic Insecurity (all of which describe the current state of the USA) and there's no hope for people like the OP.
Sadness and Pity is all that is left.
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A year I live in “To Eat Only in the 7th Day Lifestyle”
My organism produces opiates and alkaloids 6 days of my freedom from eating in a week.
They for sure can replace alcohol and drugs we buy for money.
My life style can become a very effective treatment to those people you are talking about.
I invite you to partnership in this thread.
 
deaman said:
A diiference in language is not going to help his cause. BS is BS in any language.
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I have 4 years experience of working as an engineer of exploitation, repair and adjustment of many kinds of equipment in American High Tech Company in Israel.
First the top managers of our enterprise gave a green light to those who had a good Hebrew and a good English.
But after a year it became clear that employees with good English and with good Hebrew – Holy Resurrected Language are not so good in results of their work as we – specialists from murdered USSR with out English and with very bad Hebrew.
For a year almost all of them have received the letters of dismissal.

BS? - I don't understand.
 
bruto said:
I think that although it's true the language problem makes NC's message even more absurd, it is not the problem. There is no language in which plain error is less wrong. Enough of the sense of the message has come through by now for anyone with the patience to judge it silly in any tongue.
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I agree.
Silly ideas are silly ideas in a good and in a bad tongue.
Look at 2 last presidents that ruled US for those 16 years.
Great ideas are great ideas in a good and in a bad tongue too.
Look at this “Tread of Threads”.
The only shortcoming of this Thread is maybe too much concentration for some partners of great ideas in it.
 
Craig4 said:
You might want to educate yourself on eating disorders before you diagnosis everyone else on the planet with one. Of course you didn't educate yourself about any of the other general topics you pontificate on some I don't have high hopes that you'll learn what you are talking about on this one either.
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Just the 1st step – “to eat once a day” of my New Saturday Diet for a month will help you to make an order in your mind.
 
Craig B said:
Please answer the question I have already put to you: do you believe in the literal truth of the story of the Tower of Babel, and other stories from Genesis, like the Flood of Noah?

Are you really wishing to impose the use of a language on people, on the basis of this collection of ancient stories? Abundant evidence indicates that Hebrew evolved like any other language, and that it was never the common language of all humanity.
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Yes!
I really believe in this great creative and constructive meme from Book of Book and all people that make identification of themselves as people of Abraahamic Civilization believe in this invariant conceptual meme.

There were 2 little towns in Syria.
About 3000 citizens of them spoke on the Aramaic language – the language of Judea citizens – the language of Jesus and His Apostles.
Now radicals destroyed those towns and killed most of it’s citizens – the last native speakers of the language of Christ and His Apostles.
I think that every person of our Abraahamic Civilization responses for this vandal act.
Why billions of Christians did not teach their children the Language of Jesus!?
And now they loosed this great ability.
I believe that people of New Saturday will resurrect the Holy Language of Jesus as Zionists resurrected the Holy Language in the 20th centaury.
 
Nationalcosmopolitan said:
Yes!
I really believe in this great creative and constructive meme from Book of Book and all people that make identification of themselves as people of Abraahamic Civilization believe in this invariant conceptual meme.

There were 2 little towns in Syria.
About 3000 citizens of them spoke on the Aramaic language – the language of Judea citizens – the language of Jesus and His Apostles.
Now radicals destroyed those towns and killed most of it’s citizens – the last native speakers of the language of Christ and His Apostles.
I think that every person of our Abraahamic Civilization responses for this vandal act.
Why billions of Christians did not teach their children the Language of Jesus!?
And now they loosed this great ability.
I believe that people of New Saturday will resurrect the Holy Language of Jesus as Zionists resurrected the Holy Language in the 20th centaury.
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And your proof for any of the above is?
 
abaddon said:
You are wrong. It has been pointed out to you that each member state sets their own rules for citizenship as they see fit. In my country, that requires 5 years residency out of the preceding 9 years with supporting documentation.

This has been pointed out to you before. Either you are ignoring replies or intentionally lying. There is no middle ground on this.

Wrong, it is primarily an economic union.

You can make your main point about whatever you like. Doesn't make it true.


Not EU related.

By choice, not by legal enforcement of the fascist state you want.

No, it isn't. Nobody wants it but you.


That is just gibberish.
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This your post is very interesting because the list of your quotes of me is very
informative.
It gives to people the ability to understand that the conceptions of so called Euro Bureaucrats (and you look as one of them) and other people that for equality of the main human rights (and I am one of them) about EU are absolutely different and alternative.
From your words it’s clear me that there is still no the real equality of main rights of EU citizens.
It just means that only criminals are in all power places of EU.

My New Saturday Union will radically change the situation.
Just 3 simple for understanding and simple for implementation blocks we have to implement to build this Great States Union of real justice and real law.
 
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