God Created Bigfoot

[Jodie]

The Bible also contains tales about talking snakes, a guy who lived at a whale's belly, the sun stopping in the sky, a guy walking over the water, a Pharaoh and his army being drowned, pillars of fire moving though the desert, weird beasts with many faces and the list goes on and on... Should I avoid discounting such tall tales too?

But lets assume, for the sake of the argument, there were Nephilin (something I find highly, extremely, unlikely). Now, try debunking my theory Nephelins = Proto Vikings. Can you figure out why it will be a hard task?

Hint- both are just fantasies, built over a myth and completely detached from the original context of the myth; they reflect nothing but our bias, our expectations, ou wishes, our fantasies.

Because they haven't found Viking bones in the middle east but they have found Neanderthal and modern human bones together in the same time frame.

http://news.sciencemag.org/archaeology/2015/01/humans-and-neandertals-likely-interbred-middle-east

 

[HarryHenderson]

I suppose it's a bit like Congress.

What's pathetic is the hypocrisy in how the pope (his popeness? popey?) is allowed to pick and choose the 'sciences' he/the church deems worthy of consideration (or not).

 

[The Shrike]

Neanderthal = Nephilim = Bigfoot because science?

 

[Jodie]

Neanderthal=Nephilim. It's been awhile since I've seen Correa post, maybe he's not here anymore. We had this ongoing discussion about the Nephilim myth being a reference to Neanderthals since they were the only other human around at the same time HS was moving out of Africa. Correa said they didn't cohabit the Levant but new evidence suggests that they did. My thought was that the Nephilim was just a racial memory of another type of human, possibly Neanderthal, since there is fossil evidence that they existed in the same area at the same time.

 

[William Parcher]

racial memory of another type of human

What is that?

 

[Jodie]

I always thought of it as something akin to real experience that got passed down from generation to generation morphing into a myth.

 

[Slowvehicle]

I always thought of it as something akin to real experience that got passed down from generation to generation morphing into a myth.

How very careless to try to pretend to use bronze-age bible myths to occurrences that would have taken place 55 TYA...

 

[Jodie]

Where do you think the bronze age bible myths came from?

 

[Slowvehicle]

Where do you think the bronze age bible myths came from?

The superstitious minds of pre-literate goatherders, trying to explain how the 'god' they had plagiarized could beat up all the other 'gods' their neighbors had invented...stories which were then inconsistently edited, sectarially redacted, and contentiously canonized.

Not "racial memories", an idea that dates from a time when people were innocent, Jung, and easily Freudened.

...Why do you ask? Are you...unfamiliar...with the "history" of the bible?

 

[Jodie]

Why can't some version of those stories not be handed down from 55K of years ago?

 

[tsig]

Why can't some version of those stories not be handed down from 55K of years ago?

How would you tell the difference between a 55K year old story and one I just made up?

 

[Jodie]

There is no fossil evidence present that could back up your made up story.

 

[Slowvehicle]

Why can't some version of those stories not be handed down from 55K of years ago?

Why would only one be done so?

The "my plagiarized 'god' can beat up the ones you invented" scenario fits so many of the demonstrable historical facts, including the lack of any evidence of the biblical "exodus", or the "conquest of canaan"...

 

[LTC8K6]

Why can't some version of those stories not be handed down from 55K of years ago?

Handed down from who/where?

Who actually saw bigfoot 55Kya and where are the fossils of these bigfoot that "they" would have been in competition with?

What humans are we talking about here?

 

[Jodie]

Why would only one be done so?

The "my plagiarized 'god' can beat up the ones you invented" scenario fits so many of the demonstrable historical facts, including the lack of any evidence of the biblical "exodus", or the "conquest of canaan"...

Many of the cities and some records of the people that are mentioned in the bible have been discovered to have existed. That doesn't mean that what was written about these places or people were true, and that only goes back a few thousand years. All I'm saying is that certain historical events could have been preserved via legend or myth from before recorded history and then eventually preserved in writing. The only book that describes the Nephilim in any detail is the Book of Enoch. The Nephilim barely get a mention anywhere else, I don't see why it can't be possible that the Nephilim mentioned in the Book of Enoch could be referring to the Neanderthals, an actual type of human, rather than some supernatural entities.

 

[Cervelo]

Creationism showed its face again on the BFF in the Bigfoot exists/doesn't exist thread. A mod had to step in and remind the crowd that they aren't supposed to discuss religion (God created Bigfoot) outside of the private paid section. I wonder what it looks like inside that place where you are allowed to testify that "evolution is only a theory".

Kinda like this only with a Christian theme....


Some of heads of state at BFF are very much religious fanatics

 

[Cervelo]

I'm using it in the vernacular sense, I know it's not a THEORY.

So why did you use the word theory?

 

[Cervelo]

Definitely not a YEC then. That's fine Correa, I doubt it's one of those things that could ever be proven based on the circumstantial evidence I based my little pet theory on.

See right there "pet theory".... memory issues or fishing expedition?

 

[The Shrike]

There is no fossil evidence present that could back up your made up story.

There are wildly conflicting interpretations on who or what the nephilim were supposed to be, but none of them suggest anything like our understanding of Neanderthals from the fossil record.

 

[Jodie]

I know Shrike, this is only my idea. There is no equivalent translation for the word giant in Aramaic. Elohim is also used to refer to humans as well as God in the bible. The prefix "El" means one who has power or authority. According to the story in the Book of Enoch, the Elohim intermingled with men producing the Nephilim, which would be the ones with traits of both HS and Neanderthal that can be found in the fossil record. The Neanderthal were already dwindling by the time HS met them in the Levant.

From that sprang the Noah story. In the Book of Enoch Noah looked like the Nephilim and there was a question about his parentage. The reason this is mentioned is because later on God supposedly chose Noah to build the Ark because he was "pure in his generation". In other words, there was no contamination of his HS line. I figure the Noah story was just that, but it reflects some major prejudice and a spiritually devine rationale for killing off the Nephilim, or the Neanderthal and Neanderthal hybrid offspring, that most likely presented the most competition with HS for the Levant habitat IMO.