Presidential Primaries 2016

[H'ethetheth]

No I think liberals live in their own reality. Human beings wanting to selfishly live off others is quite easy to exploit, and libs have been doing it for years. Having personal responsibility is much more difficult but is satisfying to the soul.

Helping others is satisfying too, but relying on government to lead that is in my view destructive.

In your view, which is demonstrably not based on objective reality (which is Jrrarglblarg's point).
Basically all other wealthy western democracies have implemented this destuctive distopian system of government, with no ill effects other than that not so many people die of preventable medical conditions and bullets to the face.

Scary.

 

[thaiboxerken]

Remember when Scott Walker was relevant?

 

[BenBurch]

Remember when Scott Walker was relevant?

Scott who?

 

[hgc]

HGC: Erlich bowed out.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...lican-who-wont-run-for-president-bob-ehrlich/

Thanks, Pup. I'll strike him in my next list update.

 

[Axiom_Blade]

Because its not marriage. Marriage is man and women.

Not anymore! See how that works?

Both wars were bipartisan.

"Bipartisan" as in "two parties", not "conservative/liberal". Those wars were never supported by liberals.

The American right are precisely the ones PAYING for social programs. This charge normally comes from the suckling pigs themselves.

Liberals don't pay taxes?
I'm betting you have exactly zero evidence to back up that one.

Again, because we can't pay for the free ride forever.

The USA is actually pretty pathetic as far as social services go, compared to more progressive countries like Canada and most of Europe.

It certainly doesn't mean you become the public trough either. So instead you're saying "screw you were taking it". Do you see the very violent crash coming?

We already had it. The conservatives facilitated it, and then rewarded the banks that caused it. None of the criminals involved went to jail. Lots of liberals protested in the streets. Some of them did go to jail. Did you somehow miss the last 7 years?

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

Okay and what exactly are you talking about?


Because its not marriage. Marriage is man and women.


Both wars were bipartisan.


He left the field, its that simple, he created a vacuum. Which was against the advice of our military.


The American right are precisely the ones PAYING for social programs. This charge normally comes from the suckling pigs themselves.


Again, because we can't pay for the free ride forever.


It certainly doesn't mean you become the public trough either. So instead you're saying "screw you were taking it". Do you see the very violent crash coming?

These responses fail to observe that the term Personal Responsibility doesn't equal appeal to Self Interest

Another one: the American Right refuses to take Personal Responsibility for environmental effects of burning billions of tons of paleocarbon, instead insisting, contrary to objective reality of observational science, that AGW is Hoax.

Meanwhile American Leftists take Personal Responsibility for the condition of the planet by buying low emissions vehicles, installing solar panels on the roof of the White House (removed during Sunrise In America) and implementing municipal recycling programs.

The American Right refuses to take Personal Responsibility for their narrow-view ideological fixations, blaming Because Jesus for idiotic notions like "marriage is man and women (sic)."

 

[Belz...]

"Brown"? Can the left ever leave a person's skin color out?

<snicker> Oh, my. That's some sweet irony, right there.

I can vote for Rubio, Trump, Carson or Fiorina, I couldn't care less what their gender or skin color is.

But apparently you care about the fact that they're total loons.

 

[Belz...]

No you just don't understand.
The natural tendencies of human nature is to be taken care of, conservatism is personal responsibility, the opposite. Its difficult to compete with Robin Hood liberalism when a country is evenly split.

Ok, also don't understand human nature, apparently.

Par for the course, I suppose.

Having personal responsibility is much more difficult but is satisfying to the soul.

No it's not. It's human nature as much as the other thing you mentioned. Really, you don't seem to know much about anything.

Marriage is man and women.

Marriage is whatever we define it as.

 

[NoahFence]

Originally Posted by logger View Post
No you just don't understand.
The natural tendencies of human nature is to be taken care of, conservatism is personal responsibility, the opposite. Its difficult to compete with Robin Hood liberalism when a country is evenly split.

And what of those who can't take care of themselves? Let 'em die, right?

 

[thaiboxerken]

Marriage is whatever we define it as.

Notice his gaffe at saying that marriage is man and women? Maybe he knows that the most traditional marriages described in the bible are a man with many women.

 

[Belz...]

It's either a mistake or a window into his real beliefs.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

The news coverage is quite sad. With a year still to go and the first state primaries still months off, it's amazing how much the news media is steering the boat and it appears that being the best news commodity is the fuel.

Trump is a star, the news media is showing his speeches because they make the best video news releases.

The rest of the GOP contenders get a little coverage when they do something extreme like Huckabee's jail visit or something unusual like Jeb speaking Spanish. Fiorina gets a little coverage because CNN is playing up her participation in tomorrow's debate.

Bernie gets coverage showing his crowds, but the whole speeches are not covered in full like Trump's are. But they showed people at Liberty clapping at a pro-choice comment, apparently that's more newsworthy than the 60 second standing ovation for the anti-abortion question that was asked of Bernie.

Biden gets a lot of wishful thinking coverage, the story has some human interest value.

For Clinton, she gets coverage if she puts down Trump's sexism. The rest of Clinton's news coverage is her faux scandals, one question surveys if she's trusted, and her falling poll numbers even though nationally she further ahead of the pack than Trump is ahead of his.

 

[dudalb]

How long until we begin hearing about Bloomberg making a run as a independent?

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Mark Cuban joked about running in the Democratic Primary, said he could beat Clinton and Trump.

 

[Trakar]

How long until we begin hearing about Bloomberg making a run as a independent?

Last I heard the Republican party was talking about running as an Independent!?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/...Kristol-wants-Dick-Cheney-to-run-against-him#

 

[steve s]

For a person to want homo's dead because of the life choice they made is not under the teachings of Christ.

Completely ignoring the fact that Yahweh tells us to kill gays.

Marriage is man and women.

And his concubines. And multiple wives.



Steve S

 

[logger]

Not anymore! See how that works?

Yes, one branch has ruled.

"Bipartisan" as in "two parties", not "conservative/liberal". Those wars were never supported by liberals.

Libs don't ever support war

Liberals don't pay taxes?
I'm betting you have exactly zero evidence to back up that one.

More suckle than pay?

The USA is actually pretty pathetic as far as social services go, compared to more progressive countries like Canada and most of Europe.

We don't have the cradle to grave mindset that weak libs need.

We already had it. The conservatives facilitated it, and then rewarded the banks that caused it. None of the criminals involved went to jail. Lots of liberals protested in the streets. Some of them did go to jail. Did you somehow miss the last 7 years?

Bankers loaning money is now somehow a crime, maybe they ought to put the losers who didn't pay in jail?

 

[logger]

In your view, which is demonstrably not based on objective reality (which is Jrrarglblarg's point).
Basically all other wealthy western democracies have implemented this destuctive distopian system of government, with no ill effects other than that not so many people die of preventable medical conditions and bullets to the face.

Scary.

Really? have you heard what is going on over there?

 

[logger]

Meanwhile American Leftists take Personal Responsibility for the condition of the planet by buying low emissions vehicles

Hypocrite, it would be better if you walked.

installing solar panels on the roof of the White House

That I had to pay for, so liberals can't really take credit, but you will.

and implementing municipal recycling programs.

Which is really a loss. Lol

The American Right refuses to take Personal Responsibility for their narrow-view ideological fixations, blaming Because Jesus for idiotic notions like "marriage is man and women (sic)."

The left owns every freakish freak show man can dream up?

 

[logger]

Completely ignoring the fact that Yahweh tells us to kill gays.

You're in Old Testament. obvious you don't know the difference between old and new.