Ed clintonemails.com: Who is Eric Hoteham?

[Ziggurat]

Let's not forget that many Democrats supported segregation and and Chappaquiddick and and the Intern and and Benghazi.

Gish Gallop....that's all they got.

Uh huh, sure. And what do you have?



Hillary married Bill. That's it, really.

 

[davefoc]

Does anybody understand what's going on with the gaps and multiple email addresses.

It sounds like there is a claim that the gaps don't count because Clinton was using a different email address and all the emails from that account were lost? Can anybody sort out the various email addresses? How many did Clinton use while she was SoS and immediately after?

 

[TheL8Elvis]

Does anybody understand what's going on with the gaps and multiple email addresses.

It sounds like there is a claim that the gaps don't count because Clinton was using a different email address and all the emails from that account were lost? Can anybody sort out the various email addresses? How many did Clinton use while she was SoS and immediately after?

http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/2015/03/HRC-staff-QA-pdf.pdf

[Before March 18, 2009, Secretary Clinton continued using the email account she had used during her Senate service. Given her practice from the beginning ofemailing Department officials on their state.gov accounts, her work-related emails during these initial weeks would have been captured and preserved in the Department's record-keeping system. She, however, no longer had access to these emails once she transitioned from this account.]

There is no other gap.

She claims to have used just one email address, hrd22@clintonemails.com, while SoS.

 

[TheL8Elvis]

What Hillary says and does isn't relevant to this thread? You've left the building, Elvis.

Yes, that's correct, not everything Hillary ever said or did is relevant to this thread.

Not sure why you would think it all was...

 

[Dog Town]

There is no other gap.

Move along! Nothing to see here!

 

[davefoc]

Let's not forget that many Democrats supported segregation and and Chappaquiddick and and the Intern and and Benghazi.

Gish Gallop....that's all they got.

Sorry, I am not sure of what the point here is. Democrats supported Chappaquiddick? Meaning that they supported Kennedy in the Chappaquidick incident? Democrats supported the Intern? Is the intern Monica Lewinsky? They supported her against Bill Clinton? Or they supported Bill Clinton even though he'd had oral sex in the White House with an intern?

I am confused, but I think the point here is that Democrats are not a monolithic group and sometimes they have opinions that are out of sync with mainstream Democratic ideas?

So now with that new insight I think the post is to be interpreted as saying that on many important issues there were Democrats who took contrarian positions. For instance, there were Democrats who:
1. Favored segregation
2. Thought that Kennedy had guilt in the Chappaquidick incident
3. Thought that Clinton acted badly with regard to the Monica Lewinsky situation
4. Think that mistakes were made in the Benghazi situation by the Obama administration.

With regard to item 4, I don't think there is much controversy that mistakes were made. I thought there was a report detailing mistakes that were made and those mistakes have been owned up to by the Obama administration. If your claim is that there are Democrats on board the exploit-Benghazi-for-political-gain train, then I'm curious who they are.

With regard to Chappequidick is there anybody alive that believes Kennedy's story, Democrat or Republican?

With Regard to Monica Lewinsky, the Democrats wanted to censure Clinton. That was a mainstream Democratic idea. The Republicans wanted to turn it into a big political circus and I don't think any Democrats went along with that.

 

[The Big Dog]

She claims to have used just one email address, hrd22@clintonemails.com, while SoS.

Uhhhhhh

MR KIRBY: Yep, seen the press report, Brad. We’re not aware of any gaps in the Clinton emails set with the exception of the first few months of her tenure when Secretary Clinton used a different email account that she has already advised she no longer has access to.

 

[The Big Dog]

Yes, that's correct, not everything Hillary ever said or did is relevant to this thread.

Not sure why you would think it all was...

Because as an astute poster pointed out, she is still using the same nonsense excuse that people think she is a liar because the "right" is after her, rather than the fact she is a huge liar.

 

[DavidJames]

Sorry, I am not sure of what the point here is.

If you follow the political forum you see a pattern, repeated over and over again. When Republicans get cornered in 2015, they revert to dredging up old crap in a vein (and pathetic) attempt to claim a bizarre form of equivalence. "Republicans support racism, HA, Robert Byrd was a democrat". One small example. Here we see something from last century (Vast Right Wing Conspiracy) brought up. The examples I've used have been thrown out by multiple posters multiple times in sad attempts at deflecting the a 2015 topic with crap from years and years ago. Also we'll see hollywood types supporting homeopathy brought to counter presidential candidates who deny climate science.

It's sad.

 

[Dog Town]

Here we see something from last century (Vast Right Wing Conspiracy) brought up...

Pay attention! If you can.

Because as an astute poster pointed out, she is still using the same nonsense excuse that people think she is a liar because the "right" is after her, rather than the fact she is a huge liar.

You won't, but I thought I'd try!
Sad indeed, I feel for ya!

 

[davefoc]

http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/2015/03/HRC-staff-QA-pdf.pdf

[Before March 18, 2009, Secretary Clinton continued using the email account she had used during her Senate service. Given her practice from the beginning ofemailing Department officials on their state.gov accounts, her work-related emails during these initial weeks would have been captured and preserved in the Department's record-keeping system. She, however, no longer had access to these emails once she transitioned from this account.]

There is no other gap.

She claims to have used just one email address, hrd22@clintonemails.com, while SoS.

Thanks. Wouldn't the senate email server have captured Clinton's senate emails? Is there some policy that causes senate emails to be automatically deleted? Or is there a legal problem with gaining access to a senator's emails? So Clinton was provided a state department email address around the time she assumed office. But she never used that. She used her senate email initially and then transitioned to her HCS email after she had that set up?

Was the HCS under the auspices of Clinton's foundation or was it a purely private email server that Clinton paid for out of her own funds?

 

[The Big Dog]

If you follow the political forum you see a pattern, repeated over and over again. When Republicans get cornered in 2015, they revert to dredging up old crap in a vein (and pathetic) attempt to claim a bizarre form of equivalence. "Republicans support racism, HA, Robert Byrd was a democrat". One small example. Here we see something from last century (Vast Right Wing Conspiracy) brought up. The examples I've used have been thrown out by multiple posters multiple times in sad attempts at deflecting the a 2015 topic with crap from years and years ago. Also we'll see hollywood types supporting homeopathy brought to counter presidential candidates who deny climate science.

It's sad.

Hey, WaPo, how dare you bring up that vast right wing conspiracy thing in 2015! Oh yeah, Hillary is ready and spontaneous and also has a great sense of humor!

 

[mgidm86]

If you follow the political forum you see a pattern, repeated over and over again. When Republicans get cornered in 2015, they revert to dredging up old crap in a vein (and pathetic) attempt to claim a bizarre form of equivalence. "Republicans support racism, HA, Robert Byrd was a democrat". One small example. Here we see something from last century (Vast Right Wing Conspiracy) brought up. The examples I've used have been thrown out by multiple posters multiple times in sad attempts at deflecting the a 2015 topic with crap from years and years ago. Also we'll see hollywood types supporting homeopathy brought to counter presidential candidates who deny climate science.

It's sad.

I think both sides are well practiced in the "bringing up old crap" routine:
"Colin Powell did it too"
"so did Bush"
etc...

This has nothing to do with the poster I quoted above:
I have a request that both sides in this thread tone down the cheap shots and sarcastic stuff, it's very pathetic and childish.

 

[Ziggurat]

Yes, that's correct, not everything Hillary ever said or did is relevant to this thread.

If we accept this assertion, it still doesn't lead us to discard this specific statement from Hillary as irrelevant.

And it's not irrelevant. It's part of an established pattern of lying and blaming others. That pattern is quite relevant to the events under discussion here, for reasons which should be obvious, even to you.

 

[davefoc]

...
I have a request that both sides in this thread tone down the cheap shots and sarcastic stuff, it's very pathetic and childish.

I'd like that as well, but as a contributor to the cheap shots it is a bit hypocritical to suggest that others refrain. Really the whole thing makes me sad. Is this really going to come down to a choice between Clinton and Trump?

I voted for George Bush and really thought it was a good thing when he won. Since, I was so completely wrong about Bush, my optimistic take away from all this is that I don't know crap and maybe Clinton or Trump will make a great president. Trump is really a major ******* though and it is hard for me to see that as a good thing in a president.

 

[The Big Dog]

I am not too surprised to see that the people bitterly complaining that people have quoted Hillary (from the last "century" ) have grown strangely quiet when presented with evidence that not only is she still doing the same song and dance, but that a major media outlets are calling her on her ********.

Don't quote Hillary's loony comment that she is the victim of a vast right wing conspiracy, it makes her look like a loon.

 

[Dog Town]

I am not too surprised to see that the people bitterly complaining that people have quoted Hillary (from the last "century" ) have grown strangely quiet when presented with evidence that not only is she still doing the same song and dance, but that a major media outlets are calling her on her ********.

Don't quote Hillary's loony comment that she is the victim of a vast right wing conspiracy, it makes her look like a loon.

BINGO!

 

[logger]

Sure, David, sure. That's why you're backing Hillary. Because nothing says 21st Century like an old grandmother with head trauma who doesn't understand technology.

And corrupt, its good to be a democrat.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Just checking in. Any indictments yet? Any actual crimes spelled out?

Bill Maher: Hillary Clinton E-Mail Scandal Isn’t A Scandal

“It seems like you’re always dealing with things that aren’t actual problems that affect Americans, Benghazi, the latest is the email scandal. Is this a scandal? I keep trying to be fair about it. Trying to find some reason I should be upset with Hillary for using her work server when it should have been her home server, or vice-versa. And I just can’t find a there-there… but I will admit, that it has worked, her numbers are down. Because people don’t pay attention to details and the media creates a lot of smoke about it.”

It's all relative:

“This so reminds me of the blowjob. Yes, he [Clinton] lied under oath.”
“Fox has spent more time on this scandal than they did on all the skrew ups in Iraq, where so many people died and we spent trillions of dollars. Even all the Republican candidates admit it was a bad idea to go into [Iraq] to begin with. Even if it everything you [Cooke] say, is it as important as climate change or health care? To spend all this energy on it!”

Let's see:
Blow job in the Oval office
The Iraq War disaster

Hmmmm,

 

[The Big Dog]

Just checking in. Any indictments yet? Any actual crimes spelled out?

Bill Maher: Hillary Clinton E-Mail Scandal Isn’t A Scandal


It's all relative:


Let's see:
Blow job in the Oval office
The Iraq War disaster

Hmmmm,

Whoa really, <SNIP>? bill maher? Hee hee!

You know what I really enjoy? Pointing out that Hillary Clinton voted FOR the Iraq WAR.

You see, <SNIP>, that is why tu quoque fallacy arguments suck like an intern in the Clinton White House!

Cripes posting something about the Iraq war in a Hillary Clinton thread.... What are you thinking?

Blow job in the White House, voting for the Iraq war, and running a cowboy server out of the rumpus room that Hillary used to wipe off with a blue dress!

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