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Continuation Part 18: Amanda Knox/Raffaele Sollecito

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That's the difference between you and i. I accept the available evidence at face value. You're suggesting that Meredith was a phony sending kisses to Amanda and Amanda knew it and Amanda was so unbalanced that she persuaded 2 young men she just met, one of which there is no evidence that had said anything more than hello to to kill her roommate.

Do you have any idea just how crazy that sounds?

Sadly, that is what appears to have happened.

Sure all the girly stuff is phony but all the girls know it's phony. It's half the fun of being girly, playing best friends for life.
 
Yet, none of those courts said any of these things. In fact Massei says both Amanda and Raffaele were upstanding citizens. No court said either Amanda or Raffaele were psychos.

Wrong, the mitigation bit only came with the sentencing. Even Rudy got mitigated, despite being the Biggest Burglar ever seen, according to your lot.
 
Oh golly gee,
The Grinder is bein' The Grinder!
Yea!

Hi bud,
just a fyi,
like you do not know this already, bro,
but ah Mikey, Peggy, Candace, and Frank Sfarzo where ALL on the same team in the beginning!

They ALL thought Miss Knox and her boyfriend [SIZE="-7"]Raffaele[/SIZE]
were guilty of Miss Kercher's murder.

As did I.
As did, come on, confess, you did too.

No way that you, Grinder,
read the very 1st story of the murder of Miss Meredith Kercher
and then the subsequent arrests of Patrick Lumumba, Amanda Knox, and [SIZE="-7"]Raffaele Sollecito[/SIZE]
and said I Do Not Believe It,
right?

Come on bro,
I know that you did believe it soooo...
So cut out the crap, ok?
:cool:

However,
you too have a mind, as do I.
Things did not mesh.

When the OG crew split,
Candace D. and Frank Sfarzo went Innocentisti!

Who do ya think that CD got much of her info from?
Peggy the homemaker in Seattle, Mikey the bird watcher in England
or Frank the Court Watcher,
err Italian, err, ah, English blog reporter in Perugia?

Yet you still talk bull crab about Miss Candace Dempsey,
her blog work, her book that she surely spent hours writing
and probably cross-checking references and/or her interview research.
With Frank Sfarzo and surely others too...

As you also like to make mention + talk crap,
in your subtle ways, of me,
if + when I ever quote anything Miss Dempey wrote.

Of course,
you Grinder,
surely went to Perugia and interviewed pep's who had met Meredith
or knew relevant info about this horrible rape + murder we still like to discuss, right?

So your word is The Gospel accordin' to The Grinder,
right?
Pfffft.
:)

As 1 of mys sisters like to say,
Nee-ner, nee-ner, nee-ner!
I know that you Grinder would luv to get some bonus points off me.

Why don'tcha email, facebook friend or take a fall trip overseas + travel to Perugia,
and pose a question or 2 or heck, even interview Estaban and his blond haired, blued English wife Lucy Rigby,
who whilest at work at her business La Tana watched an apparent drunken' Albanian get into a fight with another dude at around closing time in her restaurant, + then throw a large ceramic vase at him which instead hit Lucy in her forehead, gashin' it enough for her to need to head over to the hospital
on the same night that Amanda and [SIZE="-7"]Raff[/SIZE],
out on a date earlier that same night had stopped on by La Tana,
drank some wine while out on the town with Mez
and her, ah, dare I, err might I suggest, try and get drunk with 1 of her female friends,
with whom she was maybe on a, ah, err female date
while her boyfriend, if ya can call him that, was outta town.
On the night before Halloween...



My 2¢ only,
as I sit wearing boardshorts near the oceans edge
and take a break from shootin' surfpix and talkin' story with bro's and cute bro-ettes
before I go walk up the road to get breakfast.
:D

Whatever it all means,
it doesn't mater,
as Miss Knox and Mr. [SIZE="-7"]Raffaele Sollecito[/SIZE] are free today.

They did not murder nor participate in Miss Kercher's horrible rape + murder
like Rudy Guede did.

Anyways, argue all you want,
me I'm gonna enjoy my Sunday.
I hope that you to do the same.
Happy Sunday to ya'all!
:thumbsup:
RW


Ah, so your source is paid shill and revisionist Candace Dempsey. End of conversation. One of the worst dissemblers of all, made even nastier by her gaining personal profit from innocence fraud.
 
Because of their persecution of Amanda and Raffaele both CLEARLY INNOCENT to anyone thinking straight. They were suing their daughter's innocent friends.

What have the Kerchers ever done to you? No way, have the deeply restrained and dignified Kerchers persecuted anybody.

Yet your darlings insist in demanding to meet with these lovely humble people and visit their victim's grave. That's persecution.
 
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While I'm sure Amanda was extremely jealous of Meredith, perhaps because Meredith's boyfriend was an expert indoor gardener while hers was only a rich Italian boy with a maid serviced apartment and Audi sports car, your theory doesn't account for why a random local burglar was the one who left all the incriminating evidence, and sexually assaulted the victim while walking around covered in her blood. Amanda must have also discussed this plot with Rudy in broken Italian and he promptly agreed that a good course of action was to help these two random white people rape and murder a white girl which would surely work out well for him, the unemployed black burglar with a criminal record. Since Amanda never contacted him, and has no known means of doing so, and Amanda and Raffaele's prior plans that night were only called off 20 minutes prior to the murder, the instructions for Rudy must have been "wait outside the cottage every night all night in case an opportunity randomly arises to do our manga killing." This all fits together pretty well I guess.

It's funny with Vixen. She values newspaper articles over court testimony and documents. She believes in fantasy phones and texts. She compares Manson's influence over women he had known and lived with and has been pimping for years to Amanda's influence to two men she had just met. She willingly ignores the lack of evidence or contradicting evidence such as the digestion or the computer evidence.

TOTALLY NUTS!!
 
And yet you did. There was no humor intended. Amanda and Raffaele are CLEARLY INNOCENT. That some people lack the emotional or intellectual capacity to grasp that sometimes baffles me. I've never had much patience for the slow and the inept.

Sorry.

Snap, I cannot suffer fools either, so one of us is a fool.
 
What have the Kerchers ever done to you? No way, have the deeply constrained and dignified Kerchers persecuted anybody.

Yet your darlings insist in demanding to meet with these lovely humble people and visit their victims' grave. That's persecution.


Meredith Kercher was not the victim of either Amanda Knox or Raffaele Sollecito. Please stop making this mistake.
 
How about directing your anger to the right persons?

Who? Mignini? Maresca? Commodi? Massei? Nencini? Stefanoni? But as I said, multiple times, which you continue to ignore. (Just like the evidence) I was angry at the Kerchers IN THE PAST.

I have to remember to be patient with the mentally slow.
 
While I'm sure Amanda was extremely jealous of Meredith, perhaps because Meredith's boyfriend was an expert indoor gardener while hers was only a rich Italian boy with a maid serviced apartment and Audi sports car, your theory doesn't account for why a random local burglar was the one who left all the incriminating evidence, and sexually assaulted the victim while walking around covered in her blood. Amanda must have also discussed this plot with Rudy in broken Italian and he promptly agreed that a good course of action was to help these two random white people rape and murder a white girl which would surely work out well for him, the unemployed black burglar with a criminal record. Since Amanda never contacted him, and has no known means of doing so, and Amanda and Raffaele's prior plans that night were only called off 20 minutes prior to the murder, the instructions for Rudy must have been "wait outside the cottage every night all night in case an opportunity randomly arises to do our manga killing." This all fits together pretty well I guess.


1) Nothing rich about it. My son had a cleaner and a daily prepared breakfast in his first year at Durham Uni. Pretty standard stuff. (2) Rudy did not have a criminal record, whereas both Amanda and Raff did (3) Kokomani came all the way from Albania to tell police he witnessed the trio rehearsing their crime (4) Rudy was adopted by one of the richest families in Perugia (5) Amanda came from working class westside Seattle (6) Curt didn't even have a spare bedroom to put up Amanda and Deanna when they visited (7) Rudy is captured on cctv entering the front door shortly behind either Amanda or Mez. So much for your lies, or Rudy having to shin up the drainpipe. Oh, wait. there wasn't one.

ETA (8) Rudy left very little evidence. It is only thanks to his DNA being on an immigrants database they matched him at all.
 
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Then not awfully clever of Amanda to keep bombarding Mez with texts begging to join her, to the point of stalking. Let's face it, Amanda stalked Mez the night she was killed.


Ummmmmmm........

Text exchange between Knox and Kercher on evening of 31st October 2007:

Knox to Kercher: What are you doing this evening? Want to meet up? Got a costume?

Kercher to Knox: I'm going to a friend's house for dinner. What are your plans?

Knox to Kercher: I'm going to Le Chic and after who knows? Maybe we'll meet up? call me?



Anyone referring to this exchange of text messages as "(Knox) bombarding Mez KERCHER with texts begging to join her, to the point of stalking" is either grossly ignorant or a flat out liar. Therefore, Vixen is either grossly ignorant or a flat-out liar. I wonder whether she will enlighten us as to which of the two is the correct option.......?
 
What have the Kerchers ever done to you? No way, have the deeply constrained and dignified Kerchers persecuted anybody.

Yet your darlings insist in demanding to meet with these lovely humble people and visit their victims' grave. That's persecution.

No, it's not. They never demanded anything. Persecution is spending 4 years behind bars for something they did not do.
 
1) Nothing rich about it. My son had a cleaner and a daily prepared breakfast in his first year at Durham Uni. Pretty standard stuff. (2) Rudy did not have a criminal record, whereas both Amanda and Raff did (3) Kokomani came all the way from Albania to tell police he witnessed the trio rehearsing their crime (4) Rudy was adopted by one of the richest families in Perugia (5) Amanda came from working class westside Seattle (6) Curt didn't even have a spare bedroom to put up Amanda and Deanna when they visited (7) Rudy is captuted on cctv entering the front door shortly behind either Amanda or Mez. So much for your lies, or Rudy having to shin up the drainpipe. Oh, wait. there wasn't one.


Stop peddling lies. It's disgusting. You should be ashamed.
 
Mez flew home on a visit and Amanda herself claimed to tecs she thought Mez' locked door was because she might be in England.

If Amanda is so innocent and so nice, how come she tore out all the pages for October, including the chocolate festival, out of her diary.

Something to hide, perchance???!!!!


Do you have verifiable proof that Meredith flew home to England in October prior to her scheduled trip home, that was scheduled for early November within a few days of her murder?

Which "Tech" would that be that Amanda had spoke to?

In any event, since Meredith was scheduled to fly home to England within days of her murder (she already had some bags packed), Amanda may very well have believed (or hoped) that Meredith had already left and had locked her bedroom door.

In their testimony back in June 2009, why didn't Meredith's family mention this phantom October visit?

Meredith called her mom nightly, and her mom testified in 2009 that Meredith and Amanda got along "all right." Yet, you claim that Meredith was so upset with Amanda within a few weeks of living with her, that Meredith had kavetched about Amanda during this entire mystery flight in October 2007?

Two weeks prior to Meredith's murder, Amanda and Meredith went together to a chocolate festival, as well as to a concert, and according to their Italian roomies, Amanda and Meredith would also go shopping together, as well as lounge together in the sun on their patio.

Can you explain all these inconsistencies with your original claim that Meredith had complained about Amanda constantly on a mystery flight home sometime in that same month of October?

According to the Kerchers' testimony, it was Amanda's decision to not hang around with Meredith's English gal-pals, and while that may have slightly miffed Meredith (or not), Amanda shouldn't have felt left out, especially since Amanda was spending all her time with Raffaele the week prior to the murder.

As for the diary, let's resolve the issue of the mystery flight home before veering down another one of your blind alleys, OK?
 
What is tact, but diplomacy, aka euphemism, compromise, insincerity, bs?

It's the attitude that counts. The obvious reading is that Meredith was a friendly girl, who, if she was being tactful, did not want to hurt the feelings of someone she had quite friendly relations with.
I doubt if I were to consult a thesaurus "tact" and "bs" would be in the same section.
 
1) Nothing rich about it. My son had a cleaner and a daily prepared breakfast in his first year at Durham Uni. Pretty standard stuff. (2) Rudy did not have a criminal record, whereas both Amanda and Raff did (3) Kokomani came all the way from Albania to tell police he witnessed the trio rehearsing their crime (4) Rudy was adopted by one of the richest families in Perugia (5) Amanda came from working class westside Seattle (6) Curt didn't even have a spare bedroom to put up Amanda and Deanna when they visited (7) Rudy is captuted on cctv entering the front door shortly behind either Amanda or Mez. So much for your lies, or Rudy having to shin up the drainpipe. Oh, wait. there wasn't one.

Wow! Lying comes easy for you. Neither Amanda or Raffaele had a criminal record. Rudy did not have a criminal record that is true. But, he had been arrested just days before for something he would be convicted of. He also of course was in possession of stolen goods from a burglary that took place a few weeks earlier.
 
Ummmmmmm........

Text exchange between Knox and Kercher on evening of 31st October 2007:

Knox to Kercher: What are you doing this evening? Want to meet up? Got a costume?

Kercher to Knox: I'm going to a friend's house for dinner. What are your plans?

Knox to Kercher: I'm going to Le Chic and after who knows? Maybe we'll meet up? call me?



Anyone referring to this exchange of text messages as "(Knox) bombarding Mez KERCHER with texts begging to join her, to the point of stalking" is either grossly ignorant or a flat out liar. Therefore, Vixen is either grossly ignorant or a flat-out liar. I wonder whether she will enlighten us as to which of the two is the correct option.......?

Someone's lying by omission. Candace? IA? Amanda sent Mez a whole series of desperate texts.

But then, you knew that, didn't you? We all know you've omitted half of it. What does it say about you that you have done so?
 
Sadly, that is what appears to have happened.

Sure all the girly stuff is phony but all the girls know it's phony. It's half the fun of being girly, playing best friends for life.

No, it DOESN'T appear that way. Unless, you are deluded.
 
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