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Continuation Part 17: Amanda Knox/Raffaele Sollecito

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Vixen said:
You guys need a leader, or you are lost. You know, I actually feel sorry for Brucie, when I look at his flock. Uphill struggle. I can feel his despair.
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Yes, it is quite profound. He's a man of great feeling and depth. The despair of sacrifice is very real....
 
Kauffer said:
Prolix sophistry is in fact necessary to explain how a bleach cleaned kitchen knife too big for the mortal wounds has managed to retain any of the victim's DNA on the blade as well as some bread and how and why it was transported in the first place - or how the placement of Amanda's DNA on the handle is indicative of a stabbing motion, or why there's no evidence of slaughtering, knifing Amanda in the room where the killing took place.
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Thank you, for your gracious admission.
 
Kauffer said:
If Amanda's blood was relevant to the murder - as in that her bleeding was caused by a struggle with Kercher, then she would have bled in the room. No trace of Amanda was found in the room and in particular on Kercher's body.

If Amanda bled as a result of her committing the murder, she would have hardly speculated that her blood was not in the bathroom before the murder took place.

Similarly, what benefit to her accrued from naming Lumumba? It couldn't help her at all. If she were guilty she would have stayed quiet - what else would a cold hearted, sociopathic, manipulating rage killer do? Why would she get herself arrested? According to you, she was not even a suspect, so what's her strategy?
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She obviously assumed the Italian cops were as racist as hell, and thought she was cunningly serving Patrick's "black arse" on a plate to them. Little did she realise Italian cops were not as thick as she considered them to be.
 
Vixen said:
...And how many are serving life without parole in the USA, including children, such as Jacob Ind (who claimed provocation viz a viz child abuse)?
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That doesn't change the fact that your post was bang wrong.

(Oh and it's "vis-a-vis" (or "vis-à-vis" if one is particular about accents). It's from French, not Latin. You know what they say about "A little learning....." :rolleyes: )
 
Vixen said:
She obviously assumed the Italian cops were as racist as hell, and thought she was cunningly serving Patrick's "black arse" on a plate to them. Little did she realise Italian cops were not as thick as she considered them to be.
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I bet she did - particularly when the cops were screaming at her "Patrick killed her! You were there! We know this is all true! Tell us the truth: that you met Patrick and took him to the cottage where he raped and killed poor Meredith! You need to remember this!"

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Grinder said:
She said media not online chat rooms. Most likely she was talking about TV and newspaper/magazine coverage. I believe Mignini was also referring to media not chats.

If any side had effect, I'd say the PG side had more influence with "journalists". People like Barbie and Vogt were more influenced by the PG fake experts than any significant reporters were influenced by PI experts.

As I've said before, the early PI positions that turned out to be false, such as "Amanda never met Rudi" actually hurt later more accurate information coming from the PI side. I think the early, early attacks on Mignini, though most likely deserved, were counterproductive.

So I guess confusing online to media is the butterfly effect?

Perhaps the ISC report if it ever comes out will prove me wrong and they will be quoting you :p

I do think the DNA experts may have had some influence but not our's here, with the exception of Chris H.

I think the accusations of infatuations with either the victim or the exonerated is a straw man with the exception of PQ. One of the saddest aspects of the case has been the comparison of the two main females in beauty, smarts and likability. They were similar in all aspects.
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Definitely wrong there. Mez was brainier, more popular, nicer, taller and much better looking. It was a key factor in triggering Amanda's lethal jealousy and insecurity (=spending Halloween alone and having to beg Shaky to share a drink with her - which he did reluctantly, with a crowd of his friends- and poor, poor, Amanda having to wander the streets alone for two hours, sobbing, with even wimpy Raff more interested in his IT than her). Great motive for murder. NOT_!
 
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Grinder said:
Yes. Whether or not one slept with more men than the other just doesn't matter. The PGP also try to make a big deal of Amanda's drug consumption while ignoring Meredith's alcohol consumption. Go back and read the early reports and many of the people speaking of Meredith were bar tenders and owners.

While Raf could have developed into a long term relationship it hardly seems that Giacomo was likely to be long term for Meredith. But of course it doesn't matter.
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No, it is Amanda and the PIP who make a big deal about her nymphomania. To listen to Amanda, you could be forgiven for thinking she invented sex.

Yawn. The boys watch the girls watch the boys who watch the girls go by.

The fool thinks she invented sex and that she's a celebrity. Der!
 
Vixen said:
Mignini and his cops took the crime seriously. That's why they arrested Patrick when Amanda "confessed" she took him to the house and witnessed him raping and killing Mez.

Reality check.
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Have you read what she actually said? Oh of course not!
 
Vixen said:
No, it is Amanda and the PIP who make a big deal about her nymphomania. To listen to Amanda, you could be forgiven for thinking she invented sex.

Yawn. The boys watch the girls watch the boys who watch the girls go by.

The fool thinks she invented sex and that she's a celebrity. Der!
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I am facinated, if only for a minute, at how you take the actual facts of the case, they rattle around in your head, then a completely different set of facts comes out.

You have no facts backing up what you just said, none, nada, zilch. "The fool (AK) thinks she invented sex and that she's a celebrity." Really? And this is based on which statement of hers? What action of hers?

How do you expect to discuss an issue when you don't even know the basic facts, but are instead comfortable making them up as you go along?
 
kwill said:
I think it's the wink at the end of the first sentence that makes it so squeegy. How much illicit pleasure has been had by people examining this one college student's sex life?

The second sentence is supposed to justify the first one, right? It's okay to focus on the sniffing of panties because -- as everyone knows -- getting laid is the path to sociopathic recklessness, and murder can only be next.

Ugh. The only thing that surprises me at all is that people who make comments like these don't realize that they're exposing themselves. In the meantime, wow -- another lovely day here in the Pacific Northwest. Blue skies & soft breezes all the way.
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Just back. Yes, lovely sunny. Beats any Californian Pacific Northwest Surfer schmurfer fest.

Yes we are all nauseated by Amanda's non-stop regaling of all the guys she ever screwed. Yeah, yeah, she invented it. Enough, already.
 
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acbytesla said:
Really? Maybe the person just likes sex. Maybe they aren't frigid prudes or ugly hags who couldn't get a man interested in them.

Why do women engage in slut shaming Vixen? As you clearly are doing. Why?
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Not me, guv, honestly! I refer you to the peculiar references to sex in Amanda's own book, WTBH. Even that awfully nice guy from the BBC seemed a bit shocked.

Very few 20-year olds are "ugly hags". Kimo sabi?
 
Vixen said:
So where do you get your claims from?
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You mean the claim that the police said that Amanda told them what they already knew to be true? Um...that would be the police. Again, what was the logical fallacy?
 
Vixen said:
Just back from my summer cottage in Scandinavia. Yes, lovely sunny. Beats any Californian Pacific Northwest Surfer schmurfer fest.

Yes we are all nauseated by Amanda's non-stop regaling of all the guys she ever screwed. Yeah, yeah, she invented it. Enough, already.
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This post is libellous.
 
Bill Williams said:
Why would someone wish to make a wrong, and demonstrably wrong point? That's a headscratcher.

Even Machiavelli tries to hide his errors under an avalanche of dietrology.

All so they can feel righteous when they make slutty posts.
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Vixen said:
I say, Vicar!
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Why do you wish to make demonstrably wrong posts, and then simply move to another post when you are shown the evidence?
 
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