Look, I hate to blow off this rather immense history and explanation of normal mafia tactics in such a brief manner, but this was not a typical, mafia hit.
It was a personal vendetta by Carlos Marcello, who suffered the greatest humiliation of his life, when he was the butt of Bobby Kennedy's joke, of literally kidnapping Marcello, dragging him out of his home in the middle of the night and dumping him in the jungles of Guatemala with little more than the shirt on his back.
Bobby's act was probably illegal and certainly, a joke at Marcello's expense, since everyone knew that he lied when he claimed citizenship in Guatemala. It would have been surprising if Marcello hadn't attempted to seek revenge.
Marcello was heard to swear that he would kill JFK (not Bobby) as he explained in his infamous "tail of the dog" rant. Later, he confessed to ordering the assassination, to an FBI informant as well as Frank Ragano, who was also told by Trafficante, that Marcello was behind the assassination.
The bottom line here is, that this was a totally different and unique situation. It is irrelevant what the mob "usually" did in the past. And it wouldn't matter anyway, so long as the killers didn't get caught.
Have you seen this article, by the Pulitzer prize winning editor of Rolling Stone, Howard Kohn? Kohn had developed contacts with investigators for the HSCA, and made the the amazing discovery that within 24 hours after they had been calling mafia contacts, trying to subpoena Charles Nicoletti, the man was murdered.
http://jfkhistory.com/mobsters/Nicoletti.html
Did you also know that Sam Giancana was murdered exactly five days before he was to testify before the Church committee, investigating connections between the CIA and the mob?
And did you know that shortly after testifying about the mob's connection to the JFK case, and telling the Washington Post that the mob ordered Ruby to kill Oswald, Johnny Roselli's dismembered body was found floating in an oil drum off the coast of Miami?
Marcello told the FBI informant that David Ferrie was an accomplice who introduced him to Oswald in a meeting at his brother's restaurant in New Orleans.
Isn't it an amazing coincidence that almost immediately following newspaper stories that Ferrie was being investigated by Garrison, he was found dead? Yes, the coroner claimed it was by "natural causes", but Marcello is well known to have had public officials in his pocket and in fact, they finally got him convicted for bribing a public official.
Tell me, in his like of work, who would be the
FIRST one on his shopping list?
As for the rest of your article, please break it into smaller parts. Taking on the entire forum, I just don't have time to deal with that much data in one sitting.
1st Bolded: Marcello’s deportation case went back to ’52 and he had already appealed all the way to the Supreme Court and had lost in 1955. It can be argued that in light of the failure of the DOJ to notice either Marcello or his lawyer the deportation procedure itself was questionable, but your belief that Marcello had to take revenge on RFK/JFK is nothing more than a gratuitous assertion.
I direct your attention to how LCN dealt with the very real threat to LCN that Thomas Dewey posed to the organization as whole:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_E._Dewey#Federal_prosecutor
Dewey and La Guardia threatened Schultz with instant arrest and further charges. Schultz now proposed to murder Dewey. Dewey would be killed while he made his daily morning call to his office from a pay phone near his home.[13] However, New York crime boss Lucky Luciano and the "Mafia Commission" decided that Dewey's murder would provoke an all-out crackdown. Instead they had Schultz killed.[13]
And further:
http://www.historynet.com/thomas-e-dewey-defeats-dutch-schultz.htm
Schultz worried about Dewey for several days. Finally his paranoia and ruthlessness drove him to a deadly resolution. He would have Dewey killed.
The decision to hit Dewey was not Schultz’s alone. By 1935, the top mobsters had formed a syndicate — a cartel of the underworld’s most powerful criminals. Its members included Lucky Luciano, Meyer Lansky, Lepke Buchalter, Jacob Gurrah Shapiro, Frank Costello, and Vito Genovese. Protocol dictated that Schultz bring his proposal to the syndicate’s board of directors. Members were divided over the plan. Mobsters often killed each other, but going after Dewey would be an act of unprecedented audacity that would bring the wrath of the authorities down on the mobs. In the end, the group delayed the decision, but began to lay the groundwork by appointing Albert Anastasia to outline a scheme for a potential execution. Anastasia’s attention to detail had earned him the nickname the overlord of organized crime in his home borough of Brooklyn. He was also the man in charge of the syndicate’s death squad, an organization later tagged Murder Inc.
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In the end, the syndicate refused to authorize the Dewey hit. Schultz was enraged. I still say he oughta be hit, he said. And if nobody else is gonna do it, I’m gonna hit him myself. With those words, Dutch Schultz signed his own death warrant. Lepke quickly dispatched two of his best operatives, Emanuel Mendy Weiss and Charlie the Bug Workman, to take care of the problem.
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Dewey continued his crusade to loosen the mobs’ grip on New York City. In 1936 he sent Luciano to prison for running a prostitution ring. Elected district attorney the next year, Dewey got a conviction for Tammany’s Jimmy Hines. Gurrah and Lepke soon followed. Lepke, convicted of murder, became the highest-ranking mob boss to die in the electric chair. The masterminds of the underworld had spared Dewey’s life, and the special prosecutor had repaid the gangsters by putting them in prison and breaking up their empires.
The plan to kill Dewey finally came to light in 1941, when a mob informer tipped off authorities to Charlie Workman’s role in the affair. Workman was arrested, found guilty of murder, and sent to jail. After the story came out, Dewey denied any knowledge of the plot. He had heard vague threats, nothing more. I had no idea whether those stories were true, he wrote in his autobiography. They might have been just underworld gossip. Nor did Dewey admit to any awareness of the plot when Assistant District Attorney Burt Turkus described the details to him years later. Dewey sat motionless as Turkus filled him in, his face and body language betraying no reaction and no familiarity with the details.
The above is evidence that LCN in the U.S. not only would not hit a politician or prosecutor that presented a viable threat to the organization, if a member in their circle proposed to take that action w/o sanction that member would be murdered to stop the plot.
There’s an earlier example as well, that served as a lesson to interested parties at the time. This is a story I grew up with as a kid – the murder of New Orleans police CLEO David Hennessy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Orleans_crime_family
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As both sides began employing a large number of Sicilian mafiosi from their native Monreale, Sicily, the violent gang war began attracting police attention, particularly from New Orleans police chief David Hennessy who began investigating into the warring organizations. Within months of his investigation, Hennessy was shot and killed by several unidentified attackers while walking home on the night of October 15, 1890. This was in keeping with the Mafia practice of killing the government official who got in the Mafia's way.
The murder of Hennessey created a huge backlash from the city and, although Charles and several members of the Matrangas were arrested, they were eventually tried and acquitted in February 1891 with Charles Matranga and a 14-year-old member acquitted midway through the trial as well as four more who were eventually acquitted and three others released in hung juries. The decision caused strong protests from residents, angered by the controversy surrounding the case (particularly in the face of incriminating evidence and jury tampering), and the following month a lynch mob stormed the jail hanging 11 of the 17 Matranga members still waiting to be brought to trial including Antonio Bagnetto, Bastiano Incardona, Antonio Marchese, Pietro Monastero and Manuel Politzi on March 14, 1891. The Hennessey lynchings led to the American Mafia adopting a hard and fast rule that policemen and other law enforcement officials were not to be harmed.
Although I do not agree the LCN had a policy of killing LEO’s and politicians that got in their way asserted in the first paragraph above, I absolutely agree that the shootings and lynching’s that came after the court verdicts in favor of the defendants did in fact provide a lesson to LCN. For a better in depth explanation of LCN and crime in general in New Orleans in the pre-WWII period I recommend
Empire of Sin:
http://www.amazon.com/Empire-Sin-Mu...&qid=1436892715&sr=8-1&keywords=empire+of+sin
2nd bolded: Another assertion based on your outsider pov. See above.
3rd bolded: Yes, I have. Post hoc ergo propter hoc. I’ve explained this in an earlier post up thread before you made the scene. Few LCN members make it into old age w/o ending up in prison or dead from the natural causes of their enterprises – Carlos Marcello did however – because contrary to what various CT mongers have asserted and what you have posted here, Marcello was far from being the most powerful or most violent of Mafia capos – power wise he was below Sam Giancana and Frank Costello, above Louis Fratto of Des Moines and Frank Balistrieri of Milwaukee – He also preferred not to engage in killing unless sanctioned and necessary. I’ve quoted him before on this, but he himself said that his success was based on knowing “how everybody liked their coffee.” That he killed is without doubt, but there is no evidence that he engaged in the practice for kicks.
4th bolded. Yes I do. I also know that at the time of his murder, he was probably the most hated Capo in LCN due to his refusal to share the profits from his off-shore gambling interests that he developed during the time of his exile:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_G..._gambling_success_and_dispute_with_the_Outfit
After arriving in Mexico, Giancana managed to make money from various gambling operations, among them in Iran[not in citation given].
When Tony Accardo demanded that he give a share of the profits to The Outfit, Giancana refused, claiming that he did it all by himself and outside the The Outfit's jurisdiction. In response, Accardo asked someone to "explain him the facts of life. And I mean life." Giancana, however remained adamant and refused to pay
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Giancana#Earlier_speculations_as_to_how_Giancana_died
Some commentators [who?] have alleged that the CIA killed Giancana because of his troubled history with the agency. However, former CIA Director William Colby has been quoted as saying, "We had nothing to do with it."[31] Another theory is that Trafficante crime family boss, Santo Trafficante, Jr., ordered Giancana's murder due to mob fears that Giancana would testify about Cosa Nostra and CIA plots to kill Cuban president Fidel Castro. Trafficante would have needed permission from Outfit bosses Tony Accardo and Joseph Aiuppa to kill Giancana. Johnny Roselli, whose body was found to have been shot, dissected, then stuffed in an oil drum floating off Miami, was definitely killed on Trafficante's orders.[citation needed]
Most investigators believe Aiuppa ordered the Giancana murder. Giancana was still refusing to share any of his offshore gambling profits with the Outfit.[citation needed] In addition, Giancana was reportedly scheming to become Outfit boss again.[citation needed]
Longtime friend and associate Dominic "Butch" Blasi was with Giancana the night he was murdered and was questioned by police as a suspect. FBI experts and Giancana's daughter, Antoinette, do not consider him Giancana's killer.[32]
Other Mafia suspects are Harry Aleman, Charles "Chuckie" English, and Charles Nicoletti. In the movie Sugartime (1995), Dominic "Butch" Blasi, as portrayed by Elias Koteas, is shown murdering Giancana.[33]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Giancana#Michael_J._Corbitt.27s_account
According to former Mafia associate Michael J. Corbitt, Aiuppa seized control of Giancana's casinos in the aftermath of the murder, strategically sharing them with his caporegimes.[citation needed] Within days of Giancana's murder, Willow Springs police chief and Outfit associate Michael J. Corbitt discussed the murder with capo Salvatore Bastone. Bastone told him, "You know, Sam sure loved that little guy in Oak Park... Tony Spilotro. Yeah, he was ****in' crazy about him. Sam put Tony on the ****in' map, thought he was gonna be a big ****in' man someday. Did you know that after Marshall Caifano got out of Vegas, it was Sam who wanted Tony Spilotro out there? Even lately, with all the problems with the skim and all, Sam always stood behind the guy. Tony was over to Sam's house all the time. He lived right by there. Did you know Tony even figured out a way where he could get in through the back of Sam's place without anybody seeing him? He'd go through other people's yards, go over fences, all sorts of ****."[34]
Corbitt responded, "Sam wouldn't open the door for just any son of a bitch. I mean there's Butch, Chuckie English... He'd let them in alright, but ****, no way they'd ever do anything to hurt Sam. No way."[35]
Bastone then said, "Yeah, Sam and Butch were real close. And the same thing with him and Chuckie. Besides, neither one of them had the balls to do somethin' like that. There's only one guy that had the balls to do Sam."[35]
When Corbitt asked for the reason, Bastone quipped, "There's never just one reason for **** like what happened to Sam. There's a million of 'em. Let's just say that Sam should've remembered what happened to Bugsy Siegel.
It’s clear that there are other theories about Giancana’s murder and the motivations behind it.
5th bolded: See above. Roselli had enemies too, one of them being Santos Trafficante Jr. who suspected Roselli was participating in the off-shore gambling casino profits from Giancana, and the other thing to consider wrt Roselli is that contrary to assertion, that Roselli was a Capo, he was a lieutenant under Giancana, and when Giancana was murdered it made sense from LCN logic to murder Roselli too lest he decided to challenge Giancana’s replacement as the Chicago capo.
6th bolded: Ferrie had bad habits, and drinking and drugs usually aren’t good for anyone. That Ferrie died of natural causes (w/o scare quotes) isn’t a surprise, and contrary to CT thought coincidences (w/o scare quotes) do happen.
I won’t bother bolding your speculative question at the end, because I have no insight into how Marcello thought wrt murder past what can be proven - not proven by your assertions and others that wish to hang their version of events on a jail house brag to Laningham, but proven by Marcello’s actual behavior as Capo of NOLA.
