Latest Bigfoot "evidence"

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dmaker said:
I realize it is a video, but it would logically follow that if pics can be faked, ergo they are useless, then the same must follow for video. Since it can be faked as well. You will concede that the PGF is worthless as scientific evidence. Ok. Fine.

But you believe Patty is real, do you not? Yes or no please.
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I don't know, I wasn't there. I believe Bob Gimlin to be truthful though.
Chris B.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Juat as you are open to the fact idea Bigfoot exists.
Chris B.
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When you produce one, I'd be helpless but to be. If anyone ever produces one. Here's the deal though: if there were one to be produced, it would have happened a very long time ago. Of that I'm confident. Again, got footie? Good, it's 2 large to your favorite conservation group. I'm so confident I'll never have to pony up that I keep spending it.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Does your eagerness to insult . . .
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You insult the intelligence of all participating in these discussions with your bald assertions and adherence to 'footer tripe so many times demonstrated to be devoid of merit. All I'm doing is calling your bluff. Then all I'm doing is sitting back and watching you wrap yourself in so many sticky contradictions you remind me of pulled taffy.

I wonder how much National Geographic paid for this photo of a wild Bornean orangutan? Even photos of known organisms can be worth a lot of money. You really think that a photo of a bigfoot of similar quality would not be a sensation?
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Juat as you are open to the fact idea Bigfoot exists.
Chris B.
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I do not know of any poster here who would not be "open" to proof that Bigfoot exists. So far, there is no proof or even convincing evidence, so it seems fair, after many years of broken promises, to state that "Bigfoot doesn't exist." But this is really a short hand for: "There is no reason to believe that Bigfoot exists and I strongly suspect that convincing evidence would be available if Bigfoot was a true creature." This is actually very different from stating that "I will ignore any and all future evidence that Bigfoot exists."

This is just like stating that "Unicorns don't exist." I am willing to confidently make that statement right now, but show me evidence otherwise, and I will change my mind.

Again- test us: provide convincing evidence and see how many of us refure to change our minds.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Nope, without biological evidence to back up the claim you have nothing.
Chris B.
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Precisely, so as far as evidence for this creature of legend goes, since the dawn of man, you have collected absolutely bugger-all, and neither has anybody else. So, in essence, Bigfoot isn't there at all and never will be. So, I've not missed much then...
 
Chris, if photos, video and film are worthless as scientific evidence, what value do they hold for bigfoot research in general? Are they totally worthless, or only as scientific evidence? Anecdotes are not scientific evidence either. Are they also worthless?

The PGF seems convincing enough for many footers, despite being worthless. You do not think that a clear high resolution photo, or video, would have a positive impact on the overall impression of the current evidence?
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
I don't know, I wasn't there. I believe Bob Gimlin to be truthful though.
Chris B.
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Bob the "Indian Tracker" Gimlin? The same Bob Gimlin who couldn't recall whether Roger fell off his horse or merely jumped off? The same Gimlin who wasn't sure if the horses were spooked or calm? The same Bob who said he never operated a camera at all during their trip but clearly must've done if they were the only two people there? That Bob Gimlin?
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Well, you know we were originally talking about pics. Then somehow that morphed into talking about "F"'s. ;) Chris B.
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More to the point, we were talking about "evidence" for Bigfoot, be it a film, a video, a picture, or a made-up story about migration paths and HD footage shot from 15 feet away.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Nope, without biological evidence to back up the claim you have nothing.
Chris B.
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Then all of footery is based on nothing. There is no biological evidence of bigfoot that has ever been confirmed. No bigfoot claim has been properly backed up. In your own words even.

Meldrum must be full of it, then, by your definition. He has no biological evidence either. So his bigfoot musings are backed up by nothing. Equally so for Munns and his analysis of the PGF. Bindernagel also wrote a couple of books about bigfoot complete with sketches and anecdotes galore. Backed up by nothing.

Since no bigfoot claim has ever been properly backed up by the expected biological evidence, why is denial not the proper position for now?
 
The Shrike said:
You insult the intelligence of all participating in these discussions with your bald assertions and adherence to 'footer tripe so many times demonstrated to be devoid of merit. All I'm doing is calling your bluff. Then all I'm doing is sitting back and watching you wrap yourself in so many sticky contradictions you remind me of pulled taffy.

I wonder how much National Geographic paid for this photo of a wild Bornean orangutan? Even photos of known organisms can be worth a lot of money. You really think that a photo of a bigfoot of similar quality would not be a sensation?
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A photo is a claim. If you would like to find out how much a photo claimed to be of Bigfoot is worth, simply contact the recent swamp ape pic guy and ask him how much $ he made.

Without biological evidence to back up the photo, you have nothing. If there's a contradiction in here anywhere I certainly don't see it. I have been very clear in my statement. Chris B.
 
Is just me or does it seem like when OS stops posting Chris starts posting....equal amounts of drivel just different drivel?
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
A photo is a claim. If you would like to find out how much a photo claimed to be of Bigfoot is worth, simply contact the recent swamp ape pic guy and ask him how much $ he made.

Without biological evidence to back up the photo, you have nothing. If there's a contradiction in here anywhere I certainly don't see it. I have been very clear in my statement. Chris B.
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I'd hazard a guess that there's a blatant contradiction within everything you say. You're here now, telling us that there is no merit in presenting evidence that can't be backed up without biological evidence...this kind of implies that everything that has ever been presented as evidence for Bigfoot is as meaningless as a Jeff Meldrum autograph on a boxing glove, which I have known to be true all along. You have learned much, grasshopper. There may be hope for you yet.
 
dmaker said:
Then all of footery is based on nothing. There is no biological evidence of bigfoot that has ever been confirmed. No bigfoot claim has been properly backed up. In your own words even.

Meldrum must be full of it, then, by your definition. He has no biological evidence either. So his bigfoot musings are backed up by nothing. Equally so for Munns and his analysis of the PGF. Bindernagel also wrote a couple of books about bigfoot complete with sketches and anecdotes galore. Backed up by nothing.

Since no bigfoot claim has ever been properly backed up by the expected biological evidence, why is denial not the proper position for now?
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I see, so now you wish to turn the conversation from pics to videos and you want to include ALL of Bigfoot claims in general.

You can certainly do that as that is why the debate continues. No biological proof of existence has been presented and until then Bigfoot will always remain a mystery for the skeptical. Isn't that where we are today?
Chris B.
 
Gilbert Syndrome said:
I'd hazard a guess that there's a blatant contradiction within everything you say. You're here now, telling us that there is no merit in presenting evidence that can't be backed up without biological evidence...this kind of implies that everything that has ever been presented as evidence for Bigfoot is as meaningless as a Jeff Meldrum autograph on a boxing glove, which I have known to be true all along. You have learned much, grasshopper. There may be hope for you yet.
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Pics and video are of more value to an investigation than an eye witness account. But as far as proving Bigfoot exists, without biological evidence both are of equal value. Chris B.
 
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