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12 impartial citizens evaluated ALL the evidence, not just the evidence that was "presented" to Judge Oprah. That, by definition, is justice. Whether or not you personally see the evidence is irrelevant.

From his statement tonight it seemed the biggest problem was trying to find any sort of consistency between the witness statements
 
From his statement tonight it seemed the biggest problem was trying to find any sort of consistency between the witness statements

Which is often the case. Carol Tavris and Elizabeth Loftus spoke about this at TAM. As McCulloch explained, unlike witnesses, the story that the physical evidence tells never changes.
 
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The live stream I'm watching says there were shots fired. They are blaming "outside agitators" sent by the police to make them look bad. :rolleyes:
 
Sounds like the hyped up witnesses that we kept seeing in the media, fell apart when questioned or when they got in front of the GJ?

Sounds like it was the witnesses who weren't prominent in the media were the ones who were consistent and reliable.
 
Well be fair here - the bottom line is this kid died for shop lifting a handful of cigars :(

Huh? He died because of a fight with an officer.

Hopefully the evidence (when released) will shed light on when and how the fight developed.
 
Ah, true skeptics are okay with arguments from authority. Thanks for the lesson.
When it's an actual authority this is not a fallacy.

Critical thinkers know their logical fallacies, woos are confused.
 
Which is often the case. Carol Tavris and Elizabeth Loftus spoke about this at TAM. As McCulloch explained, unlike witnesses, the story that the physical evidence tells never changes.

The sad part is the story of Brown's final actions cant be told by the physical evidence
 
Sounds like the hyped up witnesses that we kept seeing in the media, fell apart when questioned or when they got in front of the GJ?

Sounds like it was the witnesses who weren't prominent in the media were the ones who were consistent and reliable.

Imagine that.
 

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Yep. We know that it's not "argument from authority" is not in play when the person is, in fact, an authority.

Authority has two criteria. First, they have to have training and experience in the relevant field. Second, they have to be generally recognized as an authority in the relevant field by those in the field.

Anonymous, randomly selected citizens? Seems legit.
 
Sounds like it was the witnesses who weren't prominent in the media were the ones who were consistent and reliable.

From his statement tonight it seems there may have been a number of people stopped in cars. I would be very interested to see what they said
 
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