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Continuation Part 11: Amanda Knox/Raffaele Sollecito

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From: CASE OF KHAMIDOV v. RUSSIA 72118/01 15/11/2007

This case involves a legal case addressing damage to property caused by the action of a state's military.

However, there are relevant clauses within the judgment which explain the views of the ECtHR of its responsibilities vis-a-vis domestic courts; in particular when the domestic courts do not examine evidence in what the ECtHR considers a proper and reasonable manner, or conduct trials or hearings in an arbitrary way.
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The Court .... reiterates that, being sensitive to the subsidiary nature of its role and cautious about taking on the role of a first-instance tribunal of fact, the Court nevertheless is not bound by the findings of domestic courts and may depart from them where this is rendered unavoidable by the circumstances of a particular case (see, for example, Matyar v. Turkey, no. 23423/94, § 108, 21 February 2002).

The Court reiterates that it is not its task to take the place of the domestic courts, which are in the best position to assess the evidence before them, establish facts and interpret domestic law. The Court will not, in principle, intervene, unless the decisions reached by the domestic courts appear arbitrary or manifestly unreasonable and provided that the proceedings as a whole were fair as required by Article 6 § 1 (see, mutatis mutandis, Van Kück v. Germany, no. 35968/97, §§ 46-47, ECHR 2003‑VII).

...[W]hilst acknowledging the domestic judicial authorities' prerogative to assess the evidence and decide what is relevant and admissible, the Court reiterates that Article 6 § 1 places the “tribunal” under a duty to conduct a proper examination of the submissions, arguments and evidence adduced by the parties (see Van de Hurk v. the Netherlands, judgment of 19 April 1994, Series A no. 288, p. 19, § 59).
 
But Quintavalle said he was not questioned about just having seen the girl. He also explained that he did not want to come forward on his own decision, his journalist friend needed to drive him out and pressure him, because he was absolutely not keen to become a witness. He said clearly that he didn't speak about it before because he didn't want to.


Hi Machiavelli,
Wasn't this friend, that you mention
Marco Quintavalle's neighbor for many, many years?
 
Oh my...


Perugia Shock
Jan. 15, 2009:
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Just by coincidence the journalist who found him is a friend of him for decades and lives next door to his store. In other words the same journalist who for one year has been bothering all pushers and homeless people of the park, the one that has been buzzing at all doors around via della Pergola needed one year to know something from his old friend Marco whose store is just next door...

Link:
http://web.archive.org/web/20100807000011/http://perugia-shock.blogspot.com/2009_01_01_archive.html
 
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Was there "reasonable suspicion" to arrest Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito?

ECtHR case-law states:

Source: CASE OF STEPULEAC v. MOLDOVA 8207/06 06/11/2007

The Court reiterates that “the 'reasonableness' of the suspicion on which an arrest must be based forms an essential part of the safeguard against arbitrary arrest and detention which is laid down in Article 5 § 1 (c) of the Convention. Having a 'reasonable suspicion' presupposes the existence of facts or information which would satisfy an objective observer that the person concerned may have committed the offence. What may be regarded as 'reasonable' will however depend upon all the circumstances”. While special circumstances may affect the extent to which the authorities can disclose information, even “the exigencies of dealing with terrorist crime cannot justify stretching the notion of 'reasonableness' to the point where the essence of the safeguard secured by Article 5 § 1 is impaired” (see Fox, Campbell and Hartley v. the United Kingdom, judgment of 30 August 1990, Series A no. 182, § 32).

The arrest warrant issued by Mignini rests almost entirely on the false statement coerced from Amanda Knox (a statement obtained illegally, in violation of her rights, since she did not have a lawyer and was not informed of the right to remain silent), also relying on the tortured understanding of the cell phone messages between Patrick Lumumba and Amanda (note that the closing, "good night" was intentionally not included by Mignini), that Raffaele Sollecito had a pocket knife (apparently not tested for blood residue) in his possession at the police station, and may have shoes matching prints at the murder scene. For an English translation of the warrant, see:

http://murderofmeredithkercher.com/meredith-kercher-murder-case-transcripts/
 
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I have to share this,
for it tells it like it really was in Perugia back then:

Then there's Toto the hobo and Marco the store owner.
These witnesses weren't found by the police, neither did they spontaneously go to the police, neither did they say anything to the police when they were questioned right after the crime or in the next weeks or months. And there were many policemen and carabinieri around.
Dozens of journalists, during the months after the crime, went to ask them if they knew any of the suspects. But their answer was always no.
For some reason, though, at one point one of them talks to a local newspaper and suddenly remembers having seen Amanda and Raffaele. The newspaper went out with a front page and gave the exclusive interview to the country's main talk show. After the success of this operation, that generated fame and revenues, the newspaper started to look for more possible witnesses. And for some reason, as we have seen, everyone's memory started to suddenly work well.
And so what looks like a real witness factory is set up after one year from the crime and the same pattern gets repeated again and again. The witness is found, is interrogated for days, when he's ready he's brought to the Pm, when his testimony is about to become public the newspaper comes out with its scoop, then the newspaper gives what looks like its own private witness to the main national talk show for the exclusive interview. The newspaper starts to literally work for the talk show, bringing them information and other witnesses to interview. It really looks like the newspaper is awarded for its work with continuous appearances at the talk show, an advertising that is worth millions.
Then, when the exclusive interview is done, only at that point does the witnesses become approachable to other journalists.
It really looks like a full commercial exploitation of them.
As we can see the potential interest around these witnesses is huge.

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Witness with an exclusive 2
Marco is another witness with an exclusive and so he should also not be admitted.
The reason of credibility that accompanied Marco is that he has a prodigious memory. And so, with Marco the prodigy entered the inquest. But here we don't believe in prodigies, miracles and similar superstitions. The experience of savantism exists. There are a few savants like Kim Peek in the world, people with extraordinary memory or other faculties. But their superpower, is not a prodigy, it comes from agenesis or trauma of the corpus callosus of the brain. Their extraordinary faculties are associated with autism or other deficits. They are very known, they are very studied and Marco Q. is not among them. Marco has exactly the same memory as me and you. So, if you can't remember who entered a store one year ago Marco can't remember either.
If he says he remembers such a detail they should ask themselves why he says that, they should investigate him. They should remember that his testimony, besides being quite unbelievable, generated huge revenues around. There's something strange, very strange in this testimony. Just by coincidence the journalist who found him is a friend of him for decades and lives next door to his store. In other words the same journalist who for one year has been bothering all pushers and homeless people of the park, the one that has been buzzing at all doors around via della Pergola needed one year to know something from his old friend Marco whose store is just next door...
The presumed genius of memory already betrayed himself during his exclusive interview at the talk show: he said that he knew Raffaele very well because he was coming there for years. So we have another superwitness who didn't study the part too well, it seems: he doesn't know that Raffaele had just moved there...

I'll just translate a little conversation I had with the genius of memory last month.

Marco, when should we do an interview?
You know, I'm a serious person, I don't do such things.
Marco, don't make me laugh, I just saw you at Porta a Porta.
Yes, but who you think recognized me?
Everybody recognized you.
You think so?
Marco, tell me something, are you sure it was Amanda that day?
Sure, I knew her, she was always coming here, I remember just like now, I can tell you the color of the scarf she was wearing, the sweater... everything.
Yes, yes, I know you know all little details. But if she was always coming here it could be another day.
No, it was that day, I remember because I asked myself what is she doing here so early today that the university is closed. I was at the check that morning, so I've been observing all her movements in the store, then she came to pay to me, so I saw her very well. You know, I have a great memory, you can ask me anything, you can ask me something of '62 of '63, no problem.
I'll ask you something of 2007. What did she buy?
But how can I remember what she bought? Do you know how many people come into this store everyday?
So you don't remember. She was the first client, you were surprised by her presence, you've been following her in the store, you were at the check, you remember exactly what she had on, you had to grab what she bought, but you don't remember what it was.
But you know how many people...
Yes, yes, yes. Why when a couple of weeks after the arrests I came to ask you if you knew any of the suspects you told me that you didn't?
Because I'm a serious person, I do my business, I work all day...
So, what happened now, you are not a serious person anymore? You don't do your business anymore?
Because I have to say what I have seen. I'll go to the trial and that's it. No interviews, nothing. Everybody called me, but I'm a serious person, I don't do these things.
Sure, just one interview, right?
You know what I tell you? That they deceived me! Because our agreement was different.
How was your agreement?
Our agreement was that my head had to be covered and my voice tempered, so I'm very pissed off now.
What else did your agreement include?
You know I like you but I got to go now, seriously, I'm busy now, seriously.
How much did they give you?
I got to go, sorry, I got to go.
Good luck Marco.


And so this is our imaginary genius of the memory, a one-year late witness who had an agreement with a newspaper which then passed him to a talk show. And they didn't respect the agreement, incidents that may happen when you play in this way....
Poor Marco, it looks like he fell into a game bigger than him, he really deserves my good luck wish.
He should explain why he --who hates interviews and is so busy with his work-- bothered to close his store for receiving a whole TV crue in it and record an exclusive interview. He should explain why he remembered after one year what he wasn't remembering before. Why he lies about his memory, if anyone suggested to say so. If anyone suggested he enrich his testimony with details. Why he remembers only non-verifiable details but doesn't remember verifiable ones such as what Amanda bought that day.

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Classic reporting from Perugia's Frank Sfarzo!
Link is in my post above this one...
RW
 
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I recall the underwear was brown. No, there was no trace of blood on underwear as for what I recall. The drops are only in the inside of jeans.


Brown?
Are you sure of this?

I'm a photographer,
black underwear,
err, ah bikini's sure look black to me,
gosh, I better check my monitor settings,
it'd suck if my blacks were actually browns!

Oh wait a sec,
I'll just see if Barbie Nadeau knows what color they were,
give me a moment, ok, got it:

Page 47 Angel Face:
The police collected the lacy black underwear that was rolled up at Meredith's feet


Hopefully this refreshed your memory abit,
see ya Machiavelli...
RW
 
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Brown?
Are you sure of this?

I'm a photographer,
black underwear sure looks black to me,
gosh, I better check my monitor settings,
it'd suck if my blacks were actually browns!

Oh wait a sec,
I'll just see if Barbie Nadeau knows what color they were,
give me a moment, ok, got it:

Page 47 Angel Face:
The police collected the lacy black underwear that was rolled up at Meredith's feet


Hopefully this refreshed your memory abit,
see ya Machiavelli...
RW

I dont know of any women who DO or WOULD wear brown underwear! ( Does any lingerie company even make brown underwear?) Mach, truly you have lost it! But I can say knickers with a red cow design sounds pretty good in comparison. ;)
 
I'm afraid the false memory syndrome is not credible for neither Knox and Quintavalle. (As for Knox there is no record of extraordinary pressure nor exhaustion, and the interrogation lasted only 2.5 hours).
Quintavalle is not an elderly man, he was 42 maybe, looking healthy and awake. He actually just looked reluctant to speak. The journalist was his neighbour.



Oh well, you would have to prove an allegation like that.



Well, we are going to disagree a bit on the fact of their being honest or reliable people. In fact they would be inconsistent, horribly mean and lying people even in their best scenario that is if they were innocent. If they were innocent they would be disgusting liars.
Not crediting a testimony on the assumption 'because factually false' is not a reason that can have place in a court's ruling.
The computer records don't confirm any alibi at all, they don't even have their cell phones on so there is absolutely nothing to contradict Quintavalle.



There is no police coercion not even in any defence claim.

Mach and I disagree on human cognitive function. Memory is poor and suggestible. That a reliable identity can be made on someone you did not know at the time, so long after the event is fantasy. After so many pictures of knox had appeared in the papers hers would become a familiar face and so be recalled. There are very good scientific experiments on this. You could have gone rond Perugia and asked random people about whether Knox was a t random events, and a surprisingly high proportion would agree. This is similar to the cold reading that psychics do. This is why eye witnesses need to be interviewed early, with non directive questions. It would be very easy for a journalist to create memories with an improper interview process. This is why identity should have been confirmed by using a line up e.g. of photographs. Asking a witness in court do you see the guilty person is not an objective test of reliable memory.

If the Italian legal system relies on journalists finding witnesses this is just another item that will lead to unjust convictions.that these things happen does not mean they are right.
 
Have others read this?

http://murderofmeredithkercher.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Sarah-Gino-Testimony-English.pdf

I do think that if this litany of errors had been presented in an English court the prosecution forensic science would have been dismissed, the prosecution barrister / cps called to task for allowing this to be presented and a review of previous cases done by the scientist done.

Reading this you just know that there was insufficient supervision, the records were not kept contemporaneously, SOP were not in place, just a general aura of disorganisation, slackness and incompetence.
 
Have others read this?

http://murderofmeredithkercher.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Sarah-Gino-Testimony-English.pdf

I do think that if this litany of errors had been presented in an English court the prosecution forensic science would have been dismissed, the prosecution barrister / cps called to task for allowing this to be presented and a review of previous cases done by the scientist done.

Reading this you just know that there was insufficient supervision, the records were not kept contemporaneously, SOP were not in place, just a general aura of disorganisation, slackness and incompetence.

To use a British phrase, with the cockup this case is, even if I thought Amanda and Raff were guilty, as badly as Italy has screwed up the case, all charges should be dropped. Basically, they made a complete mess of the case.
 
Have others read this?

http://murderofmeredithkercher.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Sarah-Gino-Testimony-English.pdf

I do think that if this litany of errors had been presented in an English court the prosecution forensic science would have been dismissed, the prosecution barrister / cps called to task for allowing this to be presented and a review of previous cases done by the scientist done.

Reading this you just know that there was insufficient supervision, the records were not kept contemporaneously, SOP were not in place, just a general aura of disorganisation, slackness and incompetence.

This is why I'm pretty sure Stefanoni was moonlighting as a hooker. She was up all night with her clients, and then she dragged her bedraggled butt into the lab in the a.m. Mignini was probably groping her and begging for freebies at every possible moment. I saw the gibbous leer he proffered when she walked into court. And Maresca? You can bet he was down for a burly romp with the science lady. It's no wonder she couldn't do a decent job.
 
From Frank Sfarzo's Perugia Shock blog written on 26 Jun 09:


CHIRIBOGA AT THE STAND

After the crime Marina Chiriboga had been interviewed by Sollecito's lawyers and then by the police about something important at that time and (for someone) still important now: the bleach. While on the witness stand, she confirmed the two bottles of Ace bleach had been in Raffaele's apartment since the summer and in exactly the same conditions, and on the same place, in which they were found after the crime, one still sealed and the other one half full. So, those who still believed in it can say definitely goodbye to the bleach legend, that the rule of suspicion wanted to have been used for cleaning the murder weapon...

While on the witness stand it was revealed that Marina was in Quintavalle’s store the morning of 2 Nov 2007. Marina was there with him. Yes, today it was revealed that MARINA WAS THERE WITH HIM.
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But then it was Massei's turn to pose questions. And Massei didn't forget about that crucial event. He made the fateful question: DID YOU SEE AMANDA KNOX COMING TO THE STORE THAT MORNING? And Marina's answer was simple: NO.

Silence when the truth emerges. The banality of Truth.

That's how the great journalist and his prosciutto slicer end up. They were out in their reckonings, they forgot to instruct that Latin girl who was there on November 2. Their games with the media, with this trial and with other people's lives were today demolished by the honesty, by the sincerity of a Marina Chiriboga.
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Today Judge Massei exhibited himself in his usual performance when something dramatically in favor of Amanda happens. So if we thought the last hearings made him doubt about the prosecution theory now we know he's still there.

Marina told him that Amanda didn't come to the store. And he wasn't happy with that. He started asking and asking if she was sure, if she was present in all moments. It looked like he hoped her to say that at one point she went away or covered her eyes so she couldn't see. And he almost managed, since under the insisting questions Marina remembered that yes, at one point she maybe went to the depot. The next question, about where that depot was located, was a real moment of suspense.

You could tell that many people hoped Marina to reveal that the depot was two blocks away or so. I could see the Judge holding his breathe. Until Marina answered: the depot is just inside the store. And now only a stupid can believe that Amanda showed up just when Marina stepped into the depot. Especially considering that Amanda, according to the great store owner and his mentors, was already in front of the shop when they arrived, waiting for them to open.

Aah, but this is no ordinary case. If it is possible to believe Curatolo just happened to be looking down at his paper when they left the piazza and not looking up again until they returned then one can easily see that Chiroboga may have had a coughing fit that prevented her taking note of the otherwise striking damsel.

I am confused now though. Is Chiriboga the cleaning lady or Quintavalle's shop assistant?
 
I have to share this,
for it tells it like it really was in Perugia back then:

Then there's Toto the hobo and Marco the store owner.
These witnesses weren't found by the police, neither did they spontaneously go to the police, neither did they say anything to the police when they were questioned right after the crime or in the next weeks or months. And there were many policemen and carabinieri around.
Dozens of journalists, during the months after the crime, went to ask them if they knew any of the suspects. But their answer was always no.
For some reason, though, at one point one of them talks to a local newspaper and suddenly remembers having seen Amanda and Raffaele. The newspaper went out with a front page and gave the exclusive interview to the country's main talk show. After the success of this operation, that generated fame and revenues, the newspaper started to look for more possible witnesses. And for some reason, as we have seen, everyone's memory started to suddenly work well.
And so what looks like a real witness factory is set up after one year from the crime and the same pattern gets repeated again and again. The witness is found, is interrogated for days, when he's ready he's brought to the Pm, when his testimony is about to become public the newspaper comes out with its scoop, then the newspaper gives what looks like its own private witness to the main national talk show for the exclusive interview. The newspaper starts to literally work for the talk show, bringing them information and other witnesses to interview. It really looks like the newspaper is awarded for its work with continuous appearances at the talk show, an advertising that is worth millions.
Then, when the exclusive interview is done, only at that point does the witnesses become approachable to other journalists.
It really looks like a full commercial exploitation of them.
As we can see the potential interest around these witnesses is huge.

<snip>

Witness with an exclusive 2
Marco is another witness with an exclusive and so he should also not be admitted.
The reason of credibility that accompanied Marco is that he has a prodigious memory. And so, with Marco the prodigy entered the inquest. But here we don't believe in prodigies, miracles and similar superstitions. The experience of savantism exists. There are a few savants like Kim Peek in the world, people with extraordinary memory or other faculties. But their superpower, is not a prodigy, it comes from agenesis or trauma of the corpus callosus of the brain. Their extraordinary faculties are associated with autism or other deficits. They are very known, they are very studied and Marco Q. is not among them. Marco has exactly the same memory as me and you. So, if you can't remember who entered a store one year ago Marco can't remember either.
If he says he remembers such a detail they should ask themselves why he says that, they should investigate him. They should remember that his testimony, besides being quite unbelievable, generated huge revenues around. There's something strange, very strange in this testimony. Just by coincidence the journalist who found him is a friend of him for decades and lives next door to his store. In other words the same journalist who for one year has been bothering all pushers and homeless people of the park, the one that has been buzzing at all doors around via della Pergola needed one year to know something from his old friend Marco whose store is just next door...
The presumed genius of memory already betrayed himself during his exclusive interview at the talk show: he said that he knew Raffaele very well because he was coming there for years. So we have another superwitness who didn't study the part too well, it seems: he doesn't know that Raffaele had just moved there...

I'll just translate a little conversation I had with the genius of memory last month.

Marco, when should we do an interview?
You know, I'm a serious person, I don't do such things.
Marco, don't make me laugh, I just saw you at Porta a Porta.
Yes, but who you think recognized me?
Everybody recognized you.
You think so?
Marco, tell me something, are you sure it was Amanda that day?
Sure, I knew her, she was always coming here, I remember just like now, I can tell you the color of the scarf she was wearing, the sweater... everything.
Yes, yes, I know you know all little details. But if she was always coming here it could be another day.
No, it was that day, I remember because I asked myself what is she doing here so early today that the university is closed. I was at the check that morning, so I've been observing all her movements in the store, then she came to pay to me, so I saw her very well. You know, I have a great memory, you can ask me anything, you can ask me something of '62 of '63, no problem.
I'll ask you something of 2007. What did she buy?
But how can I remember what she bought? Do you know how many people come into this store everyday?
So you don't remember. She was the first client, you were surprised by her presence, you've been following her in the store, you were at the check, you remember exactly what she had on, you had to grab what she bought, but you don't remember what it was.
But you know how many people...
Yes, yes, yes. Why when a couple of weeks after the arrests I came to ask you if you knew any of the suspects you told me that you didn't?
Because I'm a serious person, I do my business, I work all day...
So, what happened now, you are not a serious person anymore? You don't do your business anymore?
Because I have to say what I have seen. I'll go to the trial and that's it. No interviews, nothing. Everybody called me, but I'm a serious person, I don't do these things.
Sure, just one interview, right?
You know what I tell you? That they deceived me! Because our agreement was different.
How was your agreement?
Our agreement was that my head had to be covered and my voice tempered, so I'm very pissed off now.
What else did your agreement include?
You know I like you but I got to go now, seriously, I'm busy now, seriously.
How much did they give you?
I got to go, sorry, I got to go.
Good luck Marco.


And so this is our imaginary genius of the memory, a one-year late witness who had an agreement with a newspaper which then passed him to a talk show. And they didn't respect the agreement, incidents that may happen when you play in this way....
Poor Marco, it looks like he fell into a game bigger than him, he really deserves my good luck wish.
He should explain why he --who hates interviews and is so busy with his work-- bothered to close his store for receiving a whole TV crue in it and record an exclusive interview. He should explain why he remembered after one year what he wasn't remembering before. Why he lies about his memory, if anyone suggested to say so. If anyone suggested he enrich his testimony with details. Why he remembers only non-verifiable details but doesn't remember verifiable ones such as what Amanda bought that day.

* * *

Classic reporting from Perugia's Frank Sfarzo!
Link is in my post above this one...
RW

If she bought something and it was the first thing sold that day then the till roll will say what it was.

Do you think Frank had a tape recorder running during that interview?
 
If she bought something and it was the first thing sold that day then the till roll will say what it was.

Do you think Frank had a tape recorder running during that interview?

This lovely passage from Frank's blog shows that literally every element of the case is a manufactured fraud; from coerced statements, to doctored lab results, to bogus coached paid witnesses, to media exploitation - its all just one big party of fraud.

The "party of the prosecutor", indeed.

The ECHR shouldn't just destroy these convictions, they should issue arrests warrants for Mignini, et als, all of them. The police, the lab techs, the journalists, the paid witnesses, newspapers and TV shows, they all participated in this fiasco, and they should all be held criminally liable. And imho, that includes the willfully false guilter brigades who lie up a storm on a daily basis.
 
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This lovely passage from Frank's blog shows that literally every element of the case is a manufactured fraud; from coerced statements, to doctored lab results, to bogus coached paid witnesses, to media exploitation - its all just one big party of fraud.

The "party of the prosecutor", indeed.

The ECHR shouldn't just destroy these convictions, they should issue arrests warrants for Mignini, et als, all of them. The police, the lab techs, the journalists, the paid witnesses, newspapers and TV shows, they all participated in this fiasco, and they should all be held criminally liable. And imho, that includes the willfully false guilter brigades who lie up a storm on a daily basis.

Steve Moore said that as soon as the authorities realised they had screwed up (on or soon after 06 Nov - or even before per Diocletus) they just started making **** up. This succinctly sums it up and all of us here can set out the very long list of bogus evidence cobbled together by these liars and frauds.
 
This is why I'm pretty sure Stefanoni was moonlighting as a hooker. She was up all night with her clients, and then she dragged her bedraggled butt into the lab in the a.m. Mignini was probably groping her and begging for freebies at every possible moment. I saw the gibbous leer he proffered when she walked into court. And Maresca? You can bet he was down for a burly romp with the science lady. It's no wonder she couldn't do a decent job.

I think you're onto something, here. Certainly it would speak to credibility if this Stefanoni lab tech woman could give us a list of the men with whom she's had relations. She could easily pass the luminol test for AIDS, but such a result would give us caution, for we all know that a negative TMB result - even a negative confirmatory result - would not necessarily prove the absence of the virus.
 
Have others read this?

http://murderofmeredithkercher.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Sarah-Gino-Testimony-English.pdf

I do think that if this litany of errors had been presented in an English court the prosecution forensic science would have been dismissed, the prosecution barrister / cps called to task for allowing this to be presented and a review of previous cases done by the scientist done.

Reading this you just know that there was insufficient supervision, the records were not kept contemporaneously, SOP were not in place, just a general aura of disorganisation, slackness and incompetence.

But, I think instead there isn't any litany of errors. There is a kind of litany of claims and complaints, but this is a defense experts and her job is to list all the holes and imperfections, possibly to emphasize them and twist the to cast the worse possible light.
In fact those claims are subjected to verification and even those that are true might be of no importance as to the final decision, since this is a judgement on the defendants' guilt, not on the forensic qualities. Claims subjected to verifications and assessment, for example, is complaints kik that the fluorimeter is not the instrument recorded in testimony and technical report; a complaint of "late discovery" or lack of documentation on this doesn't have substantial merits, since the fluorineter was used in an incidente probatorio and so the defence expert was aware about exactly all operations performed, took part to the documentation and signed it and could have documented it himself.
 
This lovely passage from Frank's blog shows that literally every element of the case is a manufactured fraud; from coerced statements, to doctored lab results, to bogus coached paid witnesses, to media exploitation - its all just one big party of fraud.

The "party of the prosecutor", indeed.

The ECHR shouldn't just destroy these convictions, they should issue arrests warrants for Mignini, et als, all of them. The police, the lab techs, the journalists, the paid witnesses, newspapers and TV shows, they all participated in this fiasco, and they should all be held criminally liable. And imho, that includes the willfully false guilter brigades who lie up a storm on a daily basis.

I assume this statement about ECHR issuing arrest warrants is a rhetorical flourish. The only entity that ECtHR "tries" is the "respondent state" in terms of whether or not it committed a violation of the applicant's rights. The ECtHR then orders just satisfaction, that is, a small payment to the victim, if there has been a violation. The victim's legal fees are also then at least partially compensated (usually). Sometimes the ECtHR will give some indication of how to redress the violation to restore the victim (individual measures) and to prevent a repetition (general measures), but this seems rare. The "enforcement" of the ECtHR judgment, and the negotiation with the respondent state for generating and implementing the individual and general measures, is the responsibility of the Committee of Ministers of the Council of Europe. That body cannot order the arrest of anyone, to my knowledge.

ETA: It does negotiate (gently demand?) changes in a state's practices, regulations, laws, or constitution.
ETA2: And the CoM of the CoE also negotiates to restore the victim, as best as possible, to a status as before the violation of rights.
 
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If she bought something and it was the first thing sold that day then the till roll will say what it was.

Do you think Frank had a tape recorder running during that interview?

Do you think Frank Sfarzo is a credible and neutral source?
 
But, I think instead there isn't any litany of errors. There is a kind of litany of claims and complaints, but this is a defense experts and her job is to list all the holes and imperfections, possibly to emphasize them and twist the to cast the worse possible light.
In fact those claims are subjected to verification and even those that are true might be of no importance as to the final decision, since this is a judgement on the defendants' guilt, not on the forensic qualities. Claims subjected to verifications and assessment, for example, is complaints kik that the fluorimeter is not the instrument recorded in testimony and technical report; a complaint of "late discovery" or lack of documentation on this doesn't have substantial merits, since the fluorineter was used in an incidente probatorio and so the defence expert was aware about exactly all operations performed, took part to the documentation and signed it and could have documented it himself.
I bet this is not true.
 
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