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Netflix CEO Attacks Comcast Over Net Neutrality Issues
Hastings was not convinced. "For example, if I watch last night's SNL episode on my Xbox through the Hulu app, it eats up about one gigabyte of my cap, but if I watch that same episode through the Xfinity Xbox app, it doesn't use up my cap at all," he wrote. "The same device, the same IP address, the same WiFi, the same Internet connection, but totally different cap treatment. In what way is this neutral?"

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Washington, D.C-based consumer group Free Press has already criticized Comcast for the discrepancy. "Not counting this video against a Comcast customer's monthly data limit gives the Comcast product an unfair advantage against other Internet video services," Free Press policy director Matt Wood said last month. "Unfortunately, such anti-competitive tricks may be allowed by loopholes in the FCC's Open Internet rules, proving once again that the FCC failed to deliver on the promise of real Net Neutrality."
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This is why the FCC's Open Internet rules aren't open internet.
 
It is a monopoly carrier (of letters). There is thus a case for regulating its charges and service commitment to avoid market failure.
 
Francesca R said:
It is a monopoly carrier (of letters). There is thus a case for regulating its charges and service commitment to avoid market failure.
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Again, irrelevant. You are misunderstanding the use and scope of analogies.

Besides, the original point was that net neutrality not enforcing competition is irrelevant because it is not the point of net neutrality.
 
You just have a bad one, from the perspective of competition and monopolies.

And I am well aware that net neutrality does not enforce competition. But since competition is actually the root of the problem (nobody has contested this), NN is using a pillow to crack a coconut.
 
Somehow I'm enjoying this thread despite having only a vague idea of what you all are talking about. I haven't yet had the time to try to figure out who is right about what.
 
Belz... said:
Besides, the original point was that net neutrality not enforcing competition is irrelevant because it is not the point of net neutrality.
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Thanks for posting that. I made a similar post, but the intertubes ate it.

Arguing that network neutrality fails because it doesn't promote competition is like saying penicillin fails because it doesn't make people run faster.
 
cornsail said:
Somehow I'm enjoying this thread despite having only a vague idea of what you all are talking about. I haven't yet had the time to try to figure out who is right about what.
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+1

I got a bit excited when someone posted the network peering diagram, but couldn't figure out how it was relevant to anything else.
 
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Upchurch said:
This is why the FCC's Open Internet rules aren't open internet.
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I find that argument a little strange--it's not at all surprising that Comcast wouldn't count traffic that doesn't leave their network (I'm assuming this is the case with Xfinity) against any data caps they have in place, it doesn't require them to prioritize traffic differently, and you have to conflate 'open internet' and 'competitive internet' to treat this as a net neutrality issue.

Which does make me think that we should just drop the net neutrality banner and talk about the fact that we rely on a patchwork of regional/vertical monopolies for internet service, and what we can do about that.
 
mumblethrax said:
Which does make me think that we should just drop the net neutrality banner and talk about the fact that we rely on a patchwork of regional/vertical monopolies for internet service, and what we can do about that.
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Seems to be what I have argued in this thread and others, for years.
 
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