Ebola in America

So, polls say Democrats are very worried about "global warming", and the anecdotal evidence available in and around the net shows they aren't worried about Ebola. That doesn't surprise me at all.
 
Denver said:
So far it doesn't seem to have infected anyone while on US soil:
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I'll be surprised if the girlfriend doesn't get it. There was a lot of contamination around the house, the bed sheets soaked in sweat and diarrhea. It's possible though, that she was careful enough, they did suspect ebola. But after the first ED visit she could very well have believed they ruled ebola out.

The rest of the people he was around, it may be that none of them were infected.
 
GWCarver said:
So, polls say Democrats are very worried about "global warming", and the anecdotal evidence available in and around the net shows they aren't worried about Ebola. That doesn't surprise me at all.
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Global Warming could change our entire way of life, spawn massive wars, etc.

Ebola is only a real threat to the existence countries with poor healthcare services.

It's not a big surprise...
 
wollclark said:
It's swine flu all over again. I'm losing sleep, waking up with my first thoughts being about this disease. Trying desperately to calm myself with the words of knowledgeable virologists, only to run into comments and stories about this being the end of the world, a conspiracy to depopulate.

I really wish I weren't so prone to panic. I just can't stop myself; I hate not knowing what will happen. Scenarios play in my head of my small, somewhat rural town being decimated by this disease, my family being ripped apart. It doesn't help that I was watching documentaries about the holocaust just a day before news of this man in Dallas. It helps paint pictures of chaos around me.

I need help. :(

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http://abcnews.go.com/Health/ebola-patients-texas-contacts-zoom-80-authorities/story?id=25912405

I really hope they just misheard '18' as '80'. :boxedin:
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I really hope you are joking about the panic. You don't need to worry, seriously.

CDC is being extremely cautious, which of course contradicts the, you can't get it if you don't have symptoms. There was a report that included a lot of people who were contacts of contacts. Or maybe that included a lot of people in the hospital and they don't want to announce that, causing even more unnecessary panic.

The 18 were the people in more direct contact with the patient. After a couple days of symptoms the man was too ill to have gone anywhere. Chances are good most actually exposed people were in the house itself.
 
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GWCarver said:
So, polls say Democrats are very worried about "global warming", and the anecdotal evidence available in and around the net shows they aren't worried about Ebola. That doesn't surprise me at all.
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That's exactly what people should and should not be worried about.

Even Nigeria has been able to reasonably contain the ebola cases that reached them.

The only countries suffering ebola in epidemic proportions are the countries that are totally messed up anyway. You don't see more than brief blips in the nearby African countries which have a semblance of public health resources to deal with cases.

I'm waiting to see what happens in India if/when cases reach there. They had a mixed response to SARS and ducked the bullet on that one.
 
Newtons Bit said:
Global Warming could change our entire way of life, spawn massive wars, etc.

Ebola is only a real threat to the existence countries with poor healthcare services.

It's not a big surprise...
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Well, in general, Republicans aren't worried about "global warming" at all, but they are worried about Ebola. What's different this time is that most of the events in the news that concern Republicans aren't even covered by the mainstream media, but Ebola is the lead story on nbcnews.com, and has been since yesterday.
 
Belz... said:
Are you serious or sarcastic ? If the former, do you lose sleep over meteors and Gamma Ray Bursts ?
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I wish I weren't serious, and no I don't. I'm sorry, I've never been known to be a calm person.

It doesn't help that he went to the hospital and they released him despite telling them he came from west Africa. He had close contact with kids, those same kids went to school with other kids. He lied to authorities about being in contact with someone with ebola before flying here. The whole situation seems dismal, and I don't have the faith in the CDC that they seem to have in themselves.
 
GWCarver said:
Well, in general, Republicans aren't worried about "global warming" at all, but they are worried about Ebola. What's different this time is that most of the events in the news that concern Republicans aren't even covered by the mainstream media, but Ebola is the lead story on nbcnews.com, and has been since yesterday.
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In other words, Republicans are in their usual ignore the actual science mode.:rolleyes:
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
I'll be surprised if the girlfriend doesn't get it. There was a lot of contamination around the house, the bed sheets soaked in sweat and diarrhea. It's possible though, that she was careful enough, they did suspect ebola. But after the first ED visit she could very well have believed they ruled ebola out.

The rest of the people he was around, it may be that none of them were infected.
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I'm surprised the girlfriend isn't in isolated observation since it would be quite stunning if she isn't infected after hearing about all the contaminated items in the apartment.
 
wollclark said:
I wish I weren't serious, and no I don't. I'm sorry, I've never been known to be a calm person.

It doesn't help that he went to the hospital and they released him despite telling them he came from west Africa. He had close contact with kids, those same kids went to school with other kids. He lied to authorities about being in contact with someone with ebola before flying here. The whole situation seems dismal, and I don't have the faith in the CDC that they seem to have in themselves.
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I guess I'm not really trying to defend this guy, just to explain a bit about why he did what he did. A few days before leaving Monrovia, he had helped take a pregnant woman dying from Ebola to a hospital, when she was turned away because they had no more beds. So, he had to carry her back to where they came from, and she died a few hours later. From what I've read recently, a person is most contagious at the time of death, and disposing of dead Ebola victims is very dangerous, indeed. In any case, he knew he had been exposed and there was no treatment available locally, and he also knew if he told them at the airport he had been around an Ebola victim, he would not be allowed to board a plane and would probably die without any treatment. So he lied and got on the plane. Why he didn't tell Presbyterian he had been directly exposed to Ebola the first time he went there is kind of a mystery.
 
News: Liberia may prosecute this man because he lied on their exit papers about being in contact with a person with Ebola.

Sorry I can't link but it should be findable.
 
PastTense said:
There is a New York Times article about how the patient caught the disease:
"Mr. Duncan, the first person to develop symptoms outside Africa during the current epidemic, had direct contact with a woman stricken by Ebola on Sept. 15, just four days before he left Liberia for the United States, the woman’s parents and Mr. Duncan’s neighbors said.

In a pattern often seen here in Monrovia, the Liberian capital, the family of the woman, Marthalene Williams, 19, took her by taxi to a hospital with Mr. Duncan’s help on Sept. 15 after failing to get an ambulance, said her parents, Emmanuel and Amie Williams. She was convulsing and seven months pregnant, they said.

Turned away from a hospital for lack of space in its Ebola treatment ward, the family said it took Ms. Williams back home in the evening, and that she died hours later, around 3 a.m."

The question arises if anyone bothered to ask him if he had any contact with anyone with the disease (I think I read there was screening both in Liberia and in the U.S.) or if he was asked and lied.
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The Liberians say he was asked, as part of the standard Ebola screening, but didn't tell them They're talking about prosecuting him.

Toke said:
Are the preppers heading for the hills yet?

(I may have a somewhat skewed view of americans, they can't all be hysteric.)
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I suspect it'll start soon.

BTW three students (siblings) have been removed from Wallace Elementary in Dallas, as they had contact Duncan. Attendance at several schools in the district is down by about 10%
 
William Parcher said:
News: Liberia may prosecute this man because he lied on their exit papers about being in contact with a person with Ebola.

Sorry I can't link but it should be findable.
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It's mentioned here.
In Liberia, authorities announced plans to prosecute Duncan, alleging that he lied on a form about not having any contact with an infected person.

Duncan filled out a series of questions about his health and activities before leaving on his journey to Dallas. On a Sept. 19 form obtained by The Associated Press, he answered no to all of them.

Among other questions, the form asked whether Duncan had cared for an Ebola patient or touched the body of anyone who had died in an area affected by Ebola.

"We expect people to do the honorable thing," said Binyah Kesselly, chairman of the board of directors of the Liberia Airport Authority in Monrovia. The agency took the case to the Ministry of Justice, which will formally prosecute it.

Neighbors in the Liberian capital believe Duncan become infected when he helped bundle a sick pregnant neighbor into a taxi a few weeks ago and set off with her to find treatment.
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I've been sneezing, I have a headache, my arms are kind of sore - can I panic yet?
 
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