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The Metaphysical Consciousness

JaysonR said:
Concussions are reduced by increasing the skull thickness.
It has nothing to do with evolving "harmonious reality" - as if that is how evolution even works! Seen a platypus recently?

Concussions aren't a thing to get rid of - you can't get rid of them.
Our brains run on electrochemical circuits, and as long as that is the case, then those circuits can be interrupted, and as long as we can interrupt those circuits with a big enough blow, then a concussion will happen.

You can reduce the chances with safety equipment, or our species could grow thicker skulls (unlikely, since the prevailing assessment is that we grew thinner skulls to allow our neurology and to allow the jaw more flex with less rigid pull on the brain cavity so that speech was more possible).

Whether you like it or not, you don't wish up some jumbo about how we work and then just start talking like a soothe sayer on a mountain top - you are just human.

And hell man, if that's not enough to be thrilled about...****...I'm sorry for you.
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http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10220043&postcount=936

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10220634&postcount=940

You are invited to look at https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3hcPBRBCzClakdJZjNNOW5RSTQ/edit?usp=sharing.
 
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That is all very nice and entirely unrelated to what I wrote you.
You have this charming way that you wish to see reality; it's a nice poem.
 
JaysonR said:
That is all very nice and entirely unrelated to what I wrote you.
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It is exactly related to the topic of this thread, and it is not reduced into variant-only relative-only partial-only view of this topic.

JaysonR said:
You have this charming way that you wish to see reality; it's a nice poem.
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You have a charming way to get reality's fragments as reality; it's a Frankenstein's-like nice poem.

Since you know Hebrew you are invited to look at:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3hcPBRBCzClZlh0bDJ0YUxZZlE/edit?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3hcPBRBCzCleHdfQVoydFBtVXM/edit?usp=sharing
 
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Still avoiding the matter.
The issue was your description of a concussion.
 
doronshadmi said:
Here is another analogy:

A tree is an organism that simultaneously has trunk and branches.

By this analogy the invariant aspect of the tree is its trunk (where the trunk is not one of many things), where the variant aspect of the tree is its branches (where each branch is one of many things).
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And that's such a shallow analogy as to be worthless.

The trunk of a tree is not fundamentally any different from the branches: they are all living, breathing, swelling and shrinking, and growing through laying down new tissues composed of carbon drawn from the air and water drawn upwards from the earth via capillary action under the bark. The tree is a single living organism, with undifferentiated continuity of life and body from roots to twigs.

Your anthropomorphic arbitrary division of the tree in your mind into a trunk and branches is the most shallow description it would be possible to make of a tree, on a par with a child's simple lines purportedly "drawing" the tree (more akin to making a diagram of a tree's morphological structures).

That you think you are banging on about something profound with this concoction of 2D images you are passing off as "analogy" tells us just how poorly conceived and rigid your thinking is, and how worthless your product is at doing what you claim.
 
doronshadmi said:
Self-awareness is the simplest state of consciousness that does not need any agent (physical or mental) in order to directly know itself, where this direct knowledge is unity (there is no multiplicity of any form including objectivity\subjectivity).

If only agents are known, consciousness is not directly known and pathological phenomena may emerge.
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No. It isn't.

I'd ask for evidence of your assertions, but I know you have none. I do have the evidence of neuroscience and science in general to back up my denial of your unbased assertions.

On top of that, I also have direct experience of contentless self-awareness. You don't have unique access to that area of human experience.

Hint: "human" experience. We know about it. We have been there, done that. In fact, by such experience we know you are talking through your hat, and saying nothing original, revealing, or special in any way.
 
Only relatively know X does not fully address X, since X also has an absolute aspect.
 
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doronshadmi said:
Still using a narrow view of this topic.
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Yes, let's generalize away from where you proposed a description for a concussion that was simply errant, and a description of how the brain works that was equally errant.

This:
Concussion is the result of poor coordination among relative (and therefore variant) many things.
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Is simply flat wrong.
 
I don't even....the op says 'concussion is the result of poor coordination'...on what particular planet is this anywhere near true?

Is that a definition in some dead language or something? If I get whacked on the head with a brick falling from the ledge above (and it doesn't kill me outright), I'll probably end up with a concussion - coordination has/had nothing at all to do with it.

Some of the OP's posts (well, most of them actually) remind me of what some old (no longer) friends used to say when they got really stoned.

Such statements as the one above from the OP appear to be completely disconnected from reality - I can't grasp any of it. Too much weird mental <insert any word you like here>, not enough connection to reality :(

Very sad, really, when I think there are 1000's (perhaps millions, or 10's of millions) more people who's writings & philosophy have a similar reality-disconnect. Sad - and worrisome.
 
Tinyal said:
If I get whacked on the head with a brick falling from the ledge above (and it doesn't kill me outright), I'll probably end up with a concussion - coordination has/had nothing at all to do with it.
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This is a narrow view of reality, which does not take in account the possible developed harmony among some person's head and some brick, where such developed level of harmony prevents the event of "a brick falling from the ledge above" on some person's head, in the first place.

Maybe http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10224122&postcount=946 can help you to understand better such developed harmony.
 
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This:
doronshadmi said:
Concussion is the result of poor coordination among relative (and therefore variant) many things.
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Is simply non-flat right, exactly because coordination can't exist without the linkage among the invariant AND the variant.

JaysonR said:
Yes, let's generalize away from where you proposed a description for a concussion that was simply errant, and a description of how the brain works that was equally errant.
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Actual generalization of reality (where concussion's prevention (medical, or not) or how the brain works) is inseparable of the developed harmony among the invariant AND the variant.
 
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JaysonR said:
The exact disconnect of all neural circuits is highly coordinated.
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The exact disconnection\connection among neural circuits is highly coordinated in case of an healthy brain, where this brain is inseparable of the developed harmony among the invariant AND the variant allover reality.
 
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I'm sorry...is English a second language which you are somewhat used to but not quite?
I ask because that last post was absolutely incoherent.
 
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