Continuation Part Eight: Discussion of the Amanda Knox/Raffaele Sollecito case

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Grinder said:
Italy wouldn't have one now would they and I don't speak French.

The The Ghirga-Dalla Vedova Motivation for Appeal I: uses both Rudi and Rudy.

The Bongiorno-Maori Motivation for Appeal I: uses both spellings.

Both spelling seem to be acceptable.
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Boy you're stubborn. From my perspective, the absolute authority on how to spell my name is ME!!! So the same would be true for Rudy. Show me a single instance where Rudy spells his name with an i.
 
codyjuneau said:
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Anglo, Rudy having an apartment full of computers was news to me also.

It seems to me that almost everything we know about Rudy's crime history comes from private sources. Even the charges for possession of stolen goods dating back years were unknown until just recently, the same with Curatola. Who is next, Kokomaniac?

Where does Nencini get the knowledge to characterize Rudy as a professional burglar versus an amateur burglar, or even a burglar? Is he basing this on possessing stolen goods? What does he know that we do not know? For years the prosecuting team has tried to ignore Rudy's crimes. Is Nencini throwing them a curve ball? Nencini is either dumb as a post, or sly as a fox.

RandyN, I agree with you, Frank is trying to give the ISC an out, just like he tried to give Mignini one, and Stefanoni. Good luck with that Frank.

Bill, thanks for the link you posted (http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2014/05/07/the-ritual-sacrifice-of-amanda-knox/http://

Very insightful.
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I guess we'll see in the full motivation or, if we don't, it will be a useful enigma for the defence teams to latch onto.
 
Grinder said:
Italy wouldn't have one now would they and I don't speak French.

The The Ghirga-Dalla Vedova Motivation for Appeal I: uses both Rudi and Rudy.

The Bongiorno-Maori Motivation for Appeal I: uses both spellings.

Both spelling seem to be acceptable.
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Italians aren't good with "Y":

The letters J ("I lunga" [long I]), K ("cappa"), W ("V doppia" or "doppia V" [double V]), X ("ics") and Y ("ipsilon" or "I greca" [Greek I]) are used for loanwords only.
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So basically, they are spelling it as "Rudi" out of parochialism and ignorance. Pretty much a microcosm of why they have screwed up this whole case.
 
And the "Y" 's have it.

RWVBWL said:
He sure does, ACbyTesla!
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So do the offices of REPUBBLICA ITALIANA!!
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Grinder,
Check it out, Rudy's ID!
Heck, it's got his birthdate, his sex, his height or is that his weight?
Please prove us wrong, or git with it, bro! :D
RW
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Excuse me Senor Grinder, But it seems photo evidence of Rudy signing his name with a "Y", in combo with a driver's license really ought to be acceptable proof, on an astonishingly minute point. He could probably open a bank account with all that info. And is the outcome of the "y" or "I" controversy in someway relevant to the case at hand? My heavens! (or is that Mi heavens!)
 
Diocletus said:
They also found his DNA on the victim's vaginal swab. They could take his toothbrush and get a match. That's what they did.
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If they tested the stolen computers found at Rudi's for prints and matched ones that did not match Rudi with prints found at the cottage that have not been attributed to anyone that would mean to me that the same person that was involved in the computer theft was also involved in Meredith's murder.
 
carbonjam72 said:
Excuse me Senor Grinder, But it seems photo evidence of Rudy signing his name with a "Y", in combo with a driver's license really ought to be acceptable proof, on an astonishingly minute point. He could probably open a bank account with all that info. And is the outcome of the "y" or "I" controversy in someway relevant to the case at hand? My heavens! (or is that Mi heavens!)
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I've cited at least 5 official court documents including his trial and appelas where the exclusively use Rudi. I've cited defense documents that use Rudi and Rudy.

Frankly if Rudi wants it to be spelled Rudy I don't give a damn and if it irritates him that I and the courts use Rudi then that pleases me.

And its an apple crisp.

ETA - Massei uses Rudi in the original Italian.
 
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It is interesting to see Thoughtful on PMF argue Nencini is wrong on the 112 calls, although I don't really follow the detail. She says we can't just make up evidence, amongst other things.
 
Samson said:
It is interesting to see Thoughtful on PMF argue Nencini is wrong on the 112 calls, although I don't really follow the detail. She says we can't just make up evidence, amongst other things.
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Yes the Nonsenini Report is mind-blowing.
 
Grinder said:
I've cited at least 5 official court documents including his trial and appelas where the exclusively use Rudi. I've cited defense documents that use Rudi and Rudy.

Frankly if Rudi wants it to be spelled Rudy I don't give a damn and if it irritates him that I and the courts use Rudi then that pleases me.

And its an apple crisp.

ETA - Massei uses Rudi in the original Italian.
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Whatever...but it is not that it irritates Rudy or Rudi that you enjoy....it is irritating anyone.
 
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Grinder said:
If they tested the stolen computers found at Rudi's for prints and matched ones that did not match Rudi with prints found at the cottage that have not been attributed to anyone that would mean to me that the same person that was involved in the computer theft was also involved in Meredith's murder.
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Either that, or they could figure out the same thing by testing the DNA from the vaginal swab, and then taking note of the fact that the guy had a bunch of stolen computers in his apartment.

BTW, AFAIK, the Perugian cops never reported seizing any stolen computers. And AFAIK, they didn't prosecute Rudy for stealing them, like the Milanese authorities did. What the heck happened to them? And whose were they?
 
Grinder said:
I've cited at least 5 official court documents including his trial and appelas where the exclusively use Rudi. I've cited defense documents that use Rudi and Rudy.

Frankly if Rudi wants it to be spelled Rudy I don't give a damn and if it irritates him that I and the courts use Rudi then that pleases me.

And its an apple crisp.

ETA - Massei uses Rudi in the original Italian.
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Personally, I don't care which way you spell it Grynder.
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Andrea Vogt is now reporting that George Clooney is beginning the production of his "Monster of Florence" film.

Mignini's shill is doing a little bit of preemptive PR spin, even before Clooney's screenplay is out.

If you listen to Vogt, the Monster of Floernce case is a complete invention of Mario Spezi and Douglas Preston. You'd never have thought that Mignini was actually charged with crimes on the basis of THAT prosecution....

Me, I think she's just mad that Nadeau was played by Beckinsale in Nadeau's horrid screenplay.
 
Grinder said:
If they tested the stolen computers found at Rudi's for prints and matched ones that did not match Rudi with prints found at the cottage that have not been attributed to anyone that would mean to me that the same person that was involved in the computer theft was also involved in Meredith's murder.
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An excellent point, Grinda!
Me thinks that you might be onta something!


PS-For ya'll, when I think of fellow JREF Poster Grinder,
I imagine a young dude, who mighta argued against AUTHORITY,
t-shirt off, wearin' boarshorts and sneakers, goin' off, gettin' rad,
hardcore and Grindin' off the pool railin',
circa 1976, with long hair flowin' in the wind, back in the "DogTown" dayz...

Kinda like this old pic of legendary Z-Boy sk8er Jay Adams:

Maybe that's because my old surfin' nickname back then was Radical Randy!
And yes, I personally know the dude above...

Though we can not agree on the correct spellin' of Rudi, err Rudy's 1st name,
Grinder, I dig your postings!
Keep on Keepin' on, bro!
RW
 
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Grinder said:
Yes the Nonsenini Report is mind-blowing.
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She is arguing like someone called Grinder here, against the pack. Apparently it is Leila Schnepps.

ETA she seems to have a proper PHD, and her DNA work seems an interpretive thing. There is by definition an appalling lack of scholarship at PMF. yet on this point about the 112 calls she is being honest.
 
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RWVBWL said:
An excellent point, Grinda!
Me thinks that you might be onta something!


PS-For ya'll, when I think of fellow JREF Poster Grinder,
I imagine a young dude, who mighta argued against AUTHORITY,
t-shirt off, wearin' boarshorts and sneakers, goin' off, gettin' rad,
hardcore and Grindin' off the pool railin',
circa 1976, with long hair flowin' in the wind, back in the "DogTown" dayz...

Kinda like this old pic of legendary Z-Boy sk8er Jay Adams:
[qimg]http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/836/qasy.jpg[/qimg]
Maybe that's because my old surfin' nickname back then was Radical Randy!
And yes, I personally know the dude above...

Though we can not agree on the correct spellin' of Rudi, err Rudy's 1st name,
Grinder, I dig your postings!
Keep on Keepin' on, bro!
RW
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Thanks Randy. I only wished I could have done all those things but I did fall for girl because was wearing a "Question Authority" button.
 
Diocletus said:
Either that, or they could figure out the same thing by testing the DNA from the vaginal swab, and then taking note of the fact that the guy had a bunch of stolen computers in his apartment.

BTW, AFAIK, the Perugian cops never reported seizing any stolen computers. And AFAIK, they didn't prosecute Rudy for stealing them, like the Milanese authorities did. What the heck happened to them? And whose were they?
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Okay last try. I'm not talking about figuring out that Rudi was there but rather if someone involved with the computer theft that was not Rudi was there.

Let's say Rudi was more of a fence than a burglar. Let's say that he did occasionally burgle but also middled stolen stuff. He told the Milan cops a partial truth when he said he bought them in the train station. He had acquired them but in Perugia and was going to sell them in Milan. When he went back to the lawyers' office he was telling the truth when he told them he hadn't stolen them.

Now if the PLE had found prints on the computers that matched prints in the cottage that would mean someone involved in the theft of the computers ALSO was at the cottage when Meredith was murdered and not the kids. A different accomplice for Rudi.
 
Grinder said:
Okay last try. I'm not talking about figuring out that Rudi was there but rather if someone involved with the computer theft that was not Rudi was there.

Let's say Rudi was more of a fence than a burglar. Let's say that he did occasionally burgle but also middled stolen stuff. He told the Milan cops a partial truth when he said he bought them in the train station. He had acquired them but in Perugia and was going to sell them in Milan. When he went back to the lawyers' office he was telling the truth when he told them he hadn't stolen them.

Now if the PLE had found prints on the computers that matched prints in the cottage that would mean someone involved in the theft of the computers ALSO was at the cottage when Meredith was murdered and not the kids. A different accomplice for Rudi.
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Rudy would need money to be a fence Grinder. Also, its worth noting that he was caught inside the nursery and that Christian Tremantano found him inside his residence.

Sure, you can add a lot of "what ifs" if you want. Here is a what if for you.

What if Rudy or Rudi did break into Christian Tremantano's, the nursery and the law office. Wouldn't that mean it is a very distinct possibility, maybe even a probability that he also broke into the cottage and therefore it is far more likely that the break in was "real" and "not staged"?
 
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