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Okay Trumpublicans, it's time to put up or shut up.

Horatius

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Horatius
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Congratulations, Trump is finally sworn in as President. It's been a tumultuous year leading up to this, but you've finally gotten what you've been saying you wanted for the last 8 years: Republicans control the Presidency, both houses of Congress, and will in short order control the Supreme Court as well.

There's literally no one who can stop you from carrying out any legislative agenda that you want.

You've spent 8 years declaring everything and everyone a "disaster". Obama was a disaster, The Iran nuclear deal is a disaster, NAFTA and other trade programs are a disaster, foreign relations are a disaster, Hillary Clinton was a disaster, the ACA is a disaster. And you've spent the months since the election rubbing everyone else's noses in how big a win you got, and how Trump is going to Make America Great Again.

Okay, fine, you won, you deserved a bit of gloating.

But now it's time to do the work.

You've been claiming for years to know the secret to how to run the US, and the rest of the world, such that it won't be a "disaster". Well, now it's time to stop with the gloating, and put your money where you mouth is. You can't blame Obama, or Hillary, or the Democrats, or the libtards, or any else, any more, because you've won it all. Success or failure now falls entirely on you, your elected officials, and your philosophy.

So, like I said: it's time to put up or shut up.

The rest of us will be watching.
 
The Democrats are still blaming Bush. Why can't we continue to blame Obama? Obama sure made a mess of things.
 
sunmaster14 said:
The Democrats are still blaming Bush. Why can't we continue to blame Obama? Obama sure made a mess of things.
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Wrong.

You can blame him for how things are now, but Trump can change everything from day 1, as he said.
If he doesn't change things for the better, that's on him and the GOP.
 
sunmaster14 said:
The Democrats are still blaming Bush. Why can't we continue to blame Obama? Obama sure made a mess of things.
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Sorry, Trump said he would Make America Great. He's already picked out his 2020 slogan "Keep America Great".

So no excuses. You've got the House and Senate. Let's have at it. I expect some results.

What's first? I believe Trump promised a new trade agreement with the UK in a couple weeks. We'll give them the weekend off. I expect to see something signed, sealed and delivered by February 6th.
 
theprestige said:
Two things that come to mind are:

Forcing Obama to pull US troops out of Iraq.

Causing the rise of ISIS.
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Well if the shoe fits.

Are you denying that Bush didn't sign the agreement that forced the US to pull out?
And if Bush hadn't decided he needed a war just like daddy, that ISIS wouldn't have arisen.
 
theprestige said:
Two things that come to mind are:

Forcing Obama to pull US troops out of Iraq.

Causing the rise of ISIS.
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Well, the first one WAS Bush's fault, as you well ignore know.

The SOFA was signed by Bush, and agreed to by Iraq. So you're wrong there. MASSIVE shock. Sad!

The rise of ISIS naturally followed. Or do you think if ISIS packs its bags and quits, another won't follow in its footsteps?

:dl:

you sure don't disappoint.
 
sunmaster14 said:
The Democrats are still blaming Bush. Why can't we continue to blame Obama? Obama sure made a mess of things.
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Because blaming people who aren't in office any more won't "Make America Great Again". Because you're supposed to be better than that "disaster" Obama. Because you've been saying for years that you could do a better job, and went out an won an election so you could have the chance to do that.

That's why.
 
Horatius said:
Because blaming people who aren't in office any more won't "Make America Great Again". Because you're supposed to be better than that "disaster" Obama. Because you've been saying for years that you could do a better job, and went out an won an election so you could have the chance to do that.

That's why.
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Blaming Bush was not what made Obama a disaster as President. Blaming Bush just made him a jackass.
 
Horatius said:
...So, like I said: it's time to put up or shut up.

The rest of us will be watching.
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He promised to Make America Great Again.
And people believed him.

And in four years, he will say he Made America Great Again.
And people will believe him.

Q.E.D.
 
When are we going to see the more reasonable, more moderate, more presidential Trump the Trumptes have been promising forever?
 
Denver said:
He promised to Make America Great Again.
And people believed him.

And in four years, he will say he Made America Great Again.
And people will believe him.

Q.E.D.
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One of the worst things happening in the wake of Trump's election is people giving up on Democracy.
 
dudalb said:
When are we going to see the more reasonable, more moderate, more presidential Trump the Trumptes have been promising forever?
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You're the one who seriously thought Trump would start a nuclear war. And you compared him to Hitler many times. I think we'll see Trump act more reasonably and moderately than that.
 
dudalb said:
One of the worst things happening in the wake of Trump's election is people giving up on Democracy.
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That, and Brexit across the pond, certainly seemed to cause some folks to give up on "one man, one vote". Did you see the thread on plural voting?
 
Giz said:
That, and Brexit across the pond, certainly seemed to cause some folks to give up on "one man, one vote". Did you see the thread on plural voting?
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Or how about, in the US, just eliminating the electorial College?
 
sunmaster14 said:
Blaming Bush was not what made Obama a disaster as President. Blaming Bush just made him a jackass.
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But that's not the issue. Blaming Bush may not have caused the "disaster", but it also clearly didn't "Make America Great Again", and neither will blaming Obama. The Trumpublicans knew what the State of the Union was all through the election, and despite that, still asserted that a vote for Trump would "Make America Great Again". So you can't use "Obama was a disaster" as an excuse for not MAGAing.

Again, you got what you wanted, now show us the money.


sunmaster14 said:
More hyperbole. Why am I not surprised?
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sunmaster14 said:
You're the one who seriously thought Trump would start a nuclear war. And you compared him to Hitler many times. I think we'll see Trump act more reasonably and moderately than that.
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Clearly there's very little of both shutting up and putting up to be had so far.
 
I also wonder how our Trumpites think about his scrapping NATO and his continued worship of Vladimar Putin.
 
Horatius said:
...So, like I said: it's time to put up or shut up.

The rest of us will be watching.
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Not me. I won't be holding my breath, nor watching, as I know exactly how it all turns out: Things end up getting ********** real bad, and the people responsible for it, still decide to blame the Democrats. I've learned very quickly that when it comes with obtuse idiots, all logic is thrown out the window.
 
sunmaster14 said:
Blaming Bush was not what made Obama a disaster as President. Blaming Bush just made him a jackass.
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Obama didn't blame Bush. He simply completed the process Bush started, getting the US out of Iraq because that's what the American people wanted. If anything, by continuing Bush's program he was crediting him, not blaming him.

As we all know, had Obama stopped the withdrawal and continued an occupation which had already lasted five years and was never meant to happen at all, people like you would be blaming him for not getting out of Iraq.

Getting into an occupation of Iraq in the first place was unquestionably the Bush Administration's fault. That's what saw the creation and rise of ISIS.

Blaming the Bush Administration for the financial boom-and-bust of the 2000's is something Obama was quite entitled to do, of course. One dreads to think how horribly Trump would have mis-handled the situation in 2009.
 
Well, if this thread is any indication, it doesn't look good.

I count one Obama-blamer, zero putter-uppers, and zero shutter-uppers .
 
dudalb said:
Or how about, in the US, just eliminating the electorial College?
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"You red states voted stupid! You are what's wrong with this country! Sign on to this constitutional amendment to strip power from yourselves so you can't vote stupid again and will lose to us next time, like you shamefacedly should!"


Good luck with that.
 
There is no absolute good or bad in the political mind. It all depends on motive.
 
Horatius said:
Congratulations, Trump is finally sworn in as President. It's been a tumultuous year leading up to this, but you've finally gotten what you've been saying you wanted for the last 8 years: Republicans control the Presidency, both houses of Congress, and will in short order control the Supreme Court as well.

There's literally no one who can stop you from carrying out any legislative agenda that you want.

You've spent 8 years declaring everything and everyone a "disaster". Obama was a disaster, The Iran nuclear deal is a disaster, NAFTA and other trade programs are a disaster, foreign relations are a disaster, Hillary Clinton was a disaster, the ACA is a disaster. And you've spent the months since the election rubbing everyone else's noses in how big a win you got, and how Trump is going to Make America Great Again.

Okay, fine, you won, you deserved a bit of gloating.

But now it's time to do the work.

You've been claiming for years to know the secret to how to run the US, and the rest of the world, such that it won't be a "disaster". Well, now it's time to stop with the gloating, and put your money where you mouth is. You can't blame Obama, or Hillary, or the Democrats, or the libtards, or any else, any more, because you've won it all. Success or failure now falls entirely on you, your elected officials, and your philosophy.

So, like I said: it's time to put up or shut up.

The rest of us will be watching.
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Obama had the same thing. We ended up with Trump.

I don't see anyone rubbing noses here. We don't need to, you won't stop crying. You said put up or shut up - the left didn't put up, so...

I don't gloat and I'm not exactly thrilled, but I'm hoping for the best. Hopefully the temper tantrum threads and posts will start to slow down here.
 
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