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Remember Tara Reade, Biden's sexual assault accuser? You'll find her now in Russia.

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Yes, Russia, where she has defected.

https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1663622433029623808

US citizen Tara Reade, Kremlin agent who falsely accused President Biden of sexual assault in 2020 has defected to Russia. She is holding a press conference in Moscow right now.

https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1663629228678717441

American traitor and Kremlin agent Tara Reade is being interviewed by convicted Russian spy Maria Butina on Russian TV. Tara Reade was recruited by Russia to discredit President Biden in the 2020 election.

You may also remember Maria Butina for being convicted as a Russian agent who funneled money to the GQP.

Anyone who believed Reade's accusations want to defend her now?
 
Yes, Russia, where she has defected.

https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1663622433029623808



https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1663629228678717441



You may also remember Maria Butina for being convicted as a Russian agent who funneled money to the GQP.

Anyone who believed Reade's accusations want to defend her now?

Wow. Her story smelled as rotten as fish left in the trunk of a car for a week in FL in August. As I recall, some of our members unhappy with Biden's winning the primary were all over her story despite the many red flags that kept appearing.
 
Wow. Her story smelled as rotten as fish left in the trunk of a car for a week in FL in August.

Yup. That had about the same level of rancid as the story Dumb and Dumber tried to cook up against Robert Muller during his investigation.

As I recall, some of our members unhappy with Biden's winning the primary were all over her story...

They have either been banned (Bubba comes to mind) or have flounced in the face of The Fat Orange Turd's legal jeopardy.

...despite the many red flags that kept appearing.

Nice - I think we all saw what you did there! :thumbsup:
 
Very strange source you're citing in the OP and making bold claims that I'm not aware of being substantiated by any fact. Was Reade ever shown to have been "recruited by Russia" in 2020? How exactly did she "defect"? Is it illegal for US citizens to visit Russia? Unlike Snowden, she's not actually facing any criminal issues at home and is free to travel where she likes. Notably she has not made any moves to denounce her US citizenship:

Though she wants to hold on to her U.S. citizenship, she said she'd "like to apply for citizenship in Russia, from the president of the Russian Federation, Vladimir Putin... I do promise to be a good citizen."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-sex-assault-accuser-tara-reade-russian-citizenship/

That said, Reade's descent into right wing conspiracy land certainly destroys a lot of her credibility generally and claims about Biden specifically. If there's any truth to her claims against Biden, falling down the right wing rabbit hole doesn't do her any favors.

This source OP cited stinks of BlueAnon craziness.
 
Very strange source you're citing in the OP and making bold claims that I'm not aware of being substantiated by any fact. Was Reade ever shown to have been "recruited by Russia" in 2020? How exactly did she "defect"? Is it illegal for US citizens to visit Russia? Unlike Snowden, she's not actually facing any criminal issues at home and is free to travel where she likes. Notably she has not made any moves to denounce her US citizenship:



https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-sex-assault-accuser-tara-reade-russian-citizenship/

That said, Reade's descent into right wing conspiracy land certainly destroys a lot of her credibility generally and claims about Biden specifically. If there's any truth to her claims against Biden, falling down the right wing rabbit hole doesn't do her any favors.

This source OP cited stinks of BlueAnon craziness.
There's at least one fact that may not be proof, but it sure is damning evidence: She defected to Russia.
 
There's at least one fact that may not be proof, but it sure is damning evidence: She defected to Russia.

Is it? What exactly do you mean by "defect"? Reade hasn't renounced her citizenship and as far as I can tell broke no laws and can freely return to the US whenever she pleases.

Snowden famously ended up in Russia, and there's nothing to suggest his leaks were instigated by Russian agents or to benefit Russia.

It's entirely possible these people end up in Russia because they acted under coordination that results in them being pariahs in the US. But it's also possible that people ending up pariahs in the US find that Russia, as an adversary, is willing to act as a gracious host after the fact.
 
Snowden famously ended up in Russia, and there's nothing to suggest his leaks were instigated by Russian agents or to benefit Russia.

It's entirely possible these people end up in Russia because they acted under coordination that results in them being pariahs in the US. But it's also possible that people ending up pariahs in the US find that Russia, as an adversary, is willing to act as a gracious host after the fact.
There are several differences between the Snowden and Reade cases:

- Snowden did not intend to settle in Russia... he was on his way to South America when his passport was cancelled and was stuck in Russia. Reade deliberately went to Russia.

- Snowden is under legitimate jeopardy... if he is caught by US authorities he will likely end up in prison. Reade has only her delusions ("My life is at risk. Also my tin-foil hat doesn't fit"). Frankly, if she didn't curry off to Russia she would be long-forgotten

- Snowden had some legitimacy... he revealed information that was accurate, and he felt there were legitimate reasons for making it public (something many posters here might agreee with). Reade's claims seem to be bunk on the face of it
 
There are several differences between the Snowden and Reade cases:

- Snowden did not intend to settle in Russia... he was on his way to South America when his passport was cancelled and was stuck in Russia. Reade deliberately went to Russia.

- Snowden is under legitimate jeopardy... if he is caught by US authorities he will likely end up in prison. Reade has only her delusions ("My life is at risk. Also my tin-foil hat doesn't fit"). Frankly, if she didn't curry off to Russia she would be long-forgotten

- Snowden had some legitimacy... he revealed information that was accurate, and he felt there were legitimate reasons for making it public (something many posters here might agreee with). Reade's claims seem to be bunk on the face of it

For sure, Reade isn't a fugitive and isn't "defecting" in any real sense. Snowden was stuck in a hard spot with no good options and Reade had no real reason to leave the US. It's entirely possible, if not likely, that she quietly returns to the US after this little PR stunt is over.
 
Is it? What exactly do you mean by "defect"? Reade hasn't renounced her citizenship and as far as I can tell broke no laws and can freely return to the US whenever she pleases.
Apparently she said so but I'm not going to Sputnik to get her exact words.
The decision to defect to Russia, she told Sputnik, “was very difficult. I’m not an impulsive person."
 
Apparently she said so but I'm not going to Sputnik to get her exact words.

I guess I just don't understand how they are using the term. Maybe as a rhetorical flourish, but I don't see any reason why we should accept that at face value.

An american moving overseas isn't defection. She's not breaking any laws nor even renouncing her citizenship as of yet. She's an expat.
 
@TG do you realize you're calling into question virtually every major news outlet? Such as:

A woman who accused Joe Biden of sexual assault during the 2020 presidential race appeared Tuesday in Moscow and said she was asking President Vladimir Putin for Russian citizenship.
 
For sure, Reade isn't a fugitive and isn't "defecting" in any real sense. Snowden was stuck in a hard spot with no good options and Reade had no real reason to leave the US. It's entirely possible, if not likely, that she quietly returns to the US after this little PR stunt is over.

do you think she's doing a PR stunt to undermine her own credibility? i can't imagine what this achieves besides making her look really bad
 
@TG do you realize you're calling into question virtually every major news outlet? Such as:

How do you mean? The US allows for dual citizenship...

Though she wants to hold on to her U.S. citizenship, she said she'd "like to apply for citizenship in Russia, from the president of the Russian Federation, Vladimir Putin... I do promise to be a good citizen."
 
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do you think she's doing a PR stunt to undermine her own credibility? i can't imagine what this achieves besides making her look really bad

It probably boosts her credibility in the pilled right winger community. Ya know, Qanon types and associated cranks. Gotta know your audience.
 
do you think she's doing a PR stunt to undermine her own credibility? i can't imagine what this achieves besides making her look really bad

No such thing as bad publicity, etc.


She claims to defect because she thinks she's in danger for exposing Biden as a sex creep, it gets in the news because of course it does, and then she comes back and tries to get on the right wing grift gravy train by acting like she's being brave by sneaking around the US one step ahead of Biden's henchmen.

Something like that.
 
It probably boosts her credibility in the pilled right winger community. Ya know, Qanon types and associated cranks. Gotta know your audience.

Jimmy Dore, Glenn Greenwald, and Joe Rogan are all fighting to be her next interview
 
No such thing as bad publicity, etc.


She claims to defect because she thinks she's in danger for exposing Biden as a sex creep, it gets in the news because of course it does, and then she comes back and tries to get on the right wing grift gravy train by acting like she's being brave by sneaking around the US one step ahead of Biden's henchmen.

Something like that.
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She claims to defect because she thinks she's in danger for exposing Biden as a sex creep, it gets in the news because of course it does, and then she comes back and tries to get on the right wing grift gravy train by acting like she's being brave by sneaking around the US one step ahead of Biden's henchmen.

Something like that.


The only things she is in danger of is being laughed at and looking stupid...


Oh, wait. Never mind.
 
I never believed her story. It never had the least bit of a ring of truth to it. Plus, my subjective judgment about Biden's character led me to believe that Biden was incapable of such an act.

However, it's instructive to note that some of Trump's female accusers have made sexual harassment accusations against him that are even less believable than Reade's accusation against Biden, yet liberals believe them and repeat them.
 
Reade's accusation became public in the spring of 2020. If someone wanted to kill her, she'd be dead by now.
When someone voluntarily moves to Russia with no job or family there, appears on Russian TV with a known Russian spy whom she said was a "friend" she'd known for years, praises Russia and Putin specifically, and requests Russian citizenship, then it's rather logical to say she's 'defected'.

Is Reade a 'useful idiot' for Russia? Probably, when you consider that she first accused Biden during the 2020 primaries and now she's back when Biden is going to run for re-election, perhaps against Trump again. Once more, we see Russia wanting Trump to win.
Reade said this in her interview with Butina:

"There are many Americans here, and I don't want to out a bunch of Americans, but there are people here that are coming to Russia - much like back in the day when Soviet Union people defected over to the US - now you have the opposite," she said. "Now you have US and European citizens looking for safe haven here. And luckily, the Kremlin is accommodating. So we're lucky."
The Sputnik news story said Reade's message to other Americans is that they should take action to protect themselves and their families "and to really look at who you're voting for."

US Intelligence experts think she's a useful idiot for Russia, too:

JJaved Ali, a former senior U.S. law enforcement and intelligence official, said that given Reade's self-described relationship with Butina, it's possible that Russia helped facilitate her move to Russia as part of an anti-U.S. propaganda campaign.
"Reade's recent defection to Russia, combined with her past activities and unusual behavior seems to fit more the pattern of a pro-Russian American sympathizer (than) a trained asset of the Russian intelligence services or an actual intelligence officer themselves," said Ali, a senior National Security Council official in the Trump administration, who also spent 16 years in top national security positions at the Defense Intelligence Agency, Department of Homeland Security and FBI.

Given her Biden-bashing, "At some point Russian intelligence personnel may have tried to recruit Reade and carry out taskings on their behalf," Ali said. But if so, "those efforts seem to have been fallen far short of their original objectives. "

On the broadcast, Reade is highly critical of the United States and very complimentary of Russia, and Butina and Putin himself.

“She's out there downplaying and dissing the United States, saying that our inflation is at 40%, which of course it is not, that gas prices have never been higher, that child poverty has never been higher, homelessness has never been higher,” said Helt, who left the CIA in 2014 after a dozen years traveling the world, and writing for and briefing the senior-most U.S. policymakers. “I mean, you want to talk about a Russian information operation, that is one. I was just horrified. It offended me viscerally.”

Helt said that one of Russia’s specialties is persuading unwitting Americans to do their bidding, including undermining the United States through the criticism of one of its own citizens. “To me, if I'm an intelligence officer watching that, I think she could absolutely be a Russian asset. She could be witting or unwitting. But when she shows up in Moscow, I think she's witting at that point.”
 
I never believed her story. It never had the least bit of a ring of truth to it. Plus, my subjective judgment about Biden's character led me to believe that Biden was incapable of such an act.

However, it's instructive to note that some of Trump's female accusers have made sexual harassment accusations against him that are even less believable than Reade's accusation against Biden, yet liberals believe them and repeat them.

That they're "less believable" than Reade's is an opinion less supported by the fact that Trump was just found to have sexually assaulted E. Jean Carroll.
 
I never believed her story. It never had the least bit of a ring of truth to it. Plus, my subjective judgment about Biden's character led me to believe that Biden was incapable of such an act.

However, it's instructive to note that some of Trump's female accusers have made sexual harassment accusations against him that are even less believable than Reade's accusation against Biden, yet liberals believe them and repeat them.
<snort>. As if "grab them by the pussy" was never spoken.
 
I never believed her story. It never had the least bit of a ring of truth to it. Plus, my subjective judgment about Biden's character led me to believe that Biden was incapable of such an act.

However, it's instructive to note that some of Trump's female accusers have made sexual harassment accusations against him that are even less believable than Reade's accusation against Biden, yet liberals believe them and repeat them.


List of those who have accused Biden of sexual assault

1. Tara Reade

List of those who have accused The Fat Orange Turd of sexual assault

1. Jessica Leeds
2. Kristin Anderson
3. Jill Harth
4. Cathy Heller
5. Temple Taggart McDowell
6. Karina Virginia
7. Bridget Sullivan
8. Tasha Dixon
9. Mindy McGillivray
10 Rachel Crooks
11. Natasha Stoynoff
12. Jennifer Murphy
13. Jessica Drake
14. Ninni Laaksonen
15. Summer Zervos
16. Cassandra Searles
17. E. Jean Carroll
18. Amy Dorris

Yeah, the allegations against Biden are totally the same as the allegations against Mr "Grab 'em by the Pussy"

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List of those who have accused Biden of sexual assault

1. Tara Reade

List of those who have accused The Fat Orange Turd of sexual assault

1. Jessica Leeds
2. Kristin Anderson
3. Jill Harth
4. Cathy Heller
5. Temple Taggart McDowell
6. Karina Virginia
7. Bridget Sullivan
8. Tasha Dixon
9. Mindy McGillivray
10 Rachel Crooks
11. Natasha Stoynoff
12. Jennifer Murphy
13. Jessica Drake
14. Ninni Laaksonen
15. Summer Zervos
16. Cassandra Searles
17. E. Jean Carroll
18. Amy Dorris

Yeah, the allegations against Biden are totally the same as the allegations against Mr "Grab 'em by the Pussy"

.
Don't forget Ivana Trump.
 
Reade's accusation became public in the spring of 2020. If someone wanted to kill her, she'd be dead by now.
When someone voluntarily moves to Russia with no job or family there, appears on Russian TV with a known Russian spy whom she said was a "friend" she'd known for years, praises Russia and Putin specifically, and requests Russian citizenship, then it's rather logical to say she's 'defected'.

Is Reade a 'useful idiot' for Russia? Probably, when you consider that she first accused Biden during the 2020 primaries and now she's back when Biden is going to run for re-election, perhaps against Trump again. Once more, we see Russia wanting Trump to win.
Reade said this in her interview with Butina:



US Intelligence experts think she's a useful idiot for Russia, too:

I repeat, she will become a fixture on Russia Today.
 
I never believed her story. It never had the least bit of a ring of truth to it. Plus, my subjective judgment about Biden's character led me to believe that Biden was incapable of such an act.

However, it's instructive to note that some of Trump's female accusers have made sexual harassment accusations against him that are even less believable than Reade's accusation against Biden, yet liberals believe them and repeat them.

Keep drinking the Trump Kool Aid, guy.
You keep saying you do not like Trump, but we all know in 2024 you will be pushing the 'Trump is not so bad" line of BS.
 
I never believed her story. It never had the least bit of a ring of truth to it. Plus, my subjective judgment about Biden's character led me to believe that Biden was incapable of such an act.

However, it's instructive to note that some of Trump's female accusers have made sexual harassment accusations against him that are even less believable than Reade's accusation against Biden, yet liberals believe them and repeat them.

Trump has openly bragged about assaulting and harassing women - and underage girls. So, she says he did it, and HE says he did it...gosh, what should I think?
 
List of those who have accused Biden of sexual assault

1. Tara Reade

List of those who have accused The Fat Orange Turd of sexual assault

1. Jessica Leeds
2. Kristin Anderson
3. Jill Harth
4. Cathy Heller
5. Temple Taggart McDowell
6. Karina Virginia
7. Bridget Sullivan
8. Tasha Dixon
9. Mindy McGillivray
10 Rachel Crooks
11. Natasha Stoynoff
12. Jennifer Murphy
13. Jessica Drake
14. Ninni Laaksonen
15. Summer Zervos
16. Cassandra Searles
17. E. Jean Carroll
18. Amy Dorris

Yeah, the allegations against Biden are totally the same as the allegations against Mr "Grab 'em by the Pussy"

.

Don't forget Ivana Trump.

And Jane Doe, the one who was thirteen when she claims she was raped by Trump and claims to have withdrawn the case because of credible threats to her life.
 
I never believed her story. It never had the least bit of a ring of truth to it. Plus, my subjective judgment about Biden's character led me to believe that Biden was incapable of such an act.

However, it's instructive to note that some of Trump's female accusers have made sexual harassment accusations against him that are even less believable than Reade's accusation against Biden, yet liberals believe them and repeat them.
Mike when the man himself says "I just go up to them and grab them by the pussy and when you are a celebrity they let you", pretty much he is setting the field himself for assault accusations to be seen as at least believable.
 
When someone voluntarily moves to Russia with no job or family there, appears on Russian TV with a known Russian spy whom she said was a "friend" she'd known for years, praises Russia and Putin specifically, and requests Russian citizenship, then it's rather logical to say she's 'defected'.

It's a semantic issue with the use of the term. She's more emigrating than defecting. Nobody in the US is sorry to see her go, and "defecting" carries an element of escape. It isn't like she traveled to Moscow as a saxophone player in a circus, then escaped her handlers and asked for political asylum in a department store.

If she were a political or military official the term would be more fitting. She's just an idiot that's leaving and humoring this as "defecting" is giving it a sense of gravitas it simply does not deserve.
 
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